[Rhodes22-list] getting started

Sat Dec 15 22:27:58 EST 2007

I was relying on memory so I had to go look it up. The story is on 
the R22 FAQ site.
http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/capsize.html

Interesting that Stan says  "Re "just" floating, the boat floats very 
high right side up - but the very design that keeps it high in the 
water if it develops a leak, keeps it low in the water when upside down."

ML

At 10:09 PM 12/15/2007, you wrote:

>Mary Lou could well be right about the capsize location.. I thought I read it
>was around here. The story on the boat is the same
>
>
>Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
> >
> > HI Tom,
> > Welcome to the list. I missed your original message but saw Rory's
> > reply. We sail out of Rock Hall but make it down to the West River
> > every now and then. I believe Peter Thorn from NC has launched at
> > Holiday Hill on a couple of his trips to the Chesapeake with his boat
> > Raven.
> >
> > Our boat, Fretless, is a 1991 boat refurbished in 1998 and as far as
> > I know has a conventional board. I think I'd spend more time worrying
> > about the other options. One of the nice things about buying a
> > recycled R22 is that you get a semi-custom boat tailored to how you
> > want to use it. Think long and hard about your expected uses and go
> > from there. In our case we knew we wanted to do a lot of overnighting
> > and cruises of up to a week or so and looked for an interior and
> > options that seemed to suit that purpose.
> >
> > I believe the boat that Rory was talking about that capsized was in
> > NC and capsized as the result of a microburst pushing a wall of wind
> > and water that caught the boat on the stern quarter. Tornados were
> > reported in the area. In that case the boat floated upside down and
> > was not righted until the rigging was cut away. A large number of
> > boats were sunk that day. The Rhodes 22 was upside down but it
> > floated. This is the only instance I have ever heard about a R22
> > actually completely capsizing. Under "normal" severe conditions the
> > Rhodes will do quite well.
> >
> > Best wishes and good luck.
> >
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 R22  Fretless
> > Rock Hall, MD
> >
> > At 06:22 PM 12/15/2007, you wrote:
> >
> >>Welcome,
> >>     I am across the bay from you on Tilghman Island and would be happy to
> >>help . There a number of Rhodes on the bay.. I have a 2000 referb and
> >>frankly I don't know if it has the diamond keel or not.
> >>I suspect it does.. I would doubt that the keel style has all that much
> >>effect on sailability but I would leave that answer to others.. A new boat
> >>might entail a longer wait ..
> >>            I don't know quite what you mean by self righting.. If the
> >> boat
> >>is heeled over hard, the hull drag will slow you enough to keep from
> >>capsizing in any situation I have seen.. I have had it hard on the rail
>lots
> >>of times.It is fun but not really where you want to be if trimmed right
>for
> >>speed.
> >>That being said, a microburst did capsize a Rhodes several years ago here
> >>near Knapps Narrows. The mast I believe was impaled in the mud and
>prevented
> >>it from geting righted.. I don't know what would happen if it were deep
> >>enough to do a full turtle.. It has lots of flotation. Stan would have to
> >>tell you how a fully water loaded Rhodes will float but I think it would
> >>sink only as far as the gunwales. I do not know of a safer boat in its
>size
> >>range..If sudden storms are your concern.. reef 95% of your sails for
> >>stability and /or head into the wind using the motor or anchor. The upper
> >>and middle Bay are so narrow, you are not far from some shelter most of
>the
> >>time. Lower bay can be a good bit worse though there are some pretty rough
> >>conditions on occasion in upper and middle.. Talk to as many experienced
> >>sailors as you can find..
> >>They will be happy to share their experiences and horror stories with
> >>you..:-) How they reacted to problems is always a lesson in what to do or
> >>not to do.
> >>                                 Rory
> >>
> >>
> >>Tom Hogarty wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello, I'm new to sailing, just leased a slip on the Chesapeake,
> >> Holiday
> >> > Hill Marina, Mayo, Maryland, and have decided to get a Rhodes.  Stan
> >> just
> >> > received our deposit, and we have not yet decided which boat to
> >> purchase.
> >> > Does anyone on this list have one for sale?  Does anyone have enough
> >> > experience with the new diamond keel to say it justify the cost of a
> >> new
> >> > boat?  Does anything remotely related to a boat have to be justified?
> >> > I understand that these are hard to capsize and have positive
> >> flotation,
> >> > are they self righting as well?
> >> >
> >> > Many thanks,
> >> > Tom Hogarty
> >> >
> >>
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