[Rhodes22-list] getting started

R Orkin roryorkin at verizon.net
Sun Dec 16 08:11:10 EST 2007


I guess we have 2 similar stories,, Chris G seems to have has a similar story
by Poplar Island


Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
> 
> I was relying on memory so I had to go look it up. The story is on 
> the R22 FAQ site.
> http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/capsize.html
> 
> Interesting that Stan says  "Re "just" floating, the boat floats very 
> high right side up - but the very design that keeps it high in the 
> water if it develops a leak, keeps it low in the water when upside down."
> 
> ML
> 
> 
> At 10:09 PM 12/15/2007, you wrote:
> 
>>Mary Lou could well be right about the capsize location.. I thought I read
it
>>was around here. The story on the boat is the same
>>
>>
>>Mary Lou Troy-2 wrote:
>> >
>> > HI Tom,
>> > Welcome to the list. I missed your original message but saw Rory's
>> > reply. We sail out of Rock Hall but make it down to the West River
>> > every now and then. I believe Peter Thorn from NC has launched at
>> > Holiday Hill on a couple of his trips to the Chesapeake with his boat
>> > Raven.
>> >
>> > Our boat, Fretless, is a 1991 boat refurbished in 1998 and as far as
>> > I know has a conventional board. I think I'd spend more time worrying
>> > about the other options. One of the nice things about buying a
>> > recycled R22 is that you get a semi-custom boat tailored to how you
>> > want to use it. Think long and hard about your expected uses and go
>> > from there. In our case we knew we wanted to do a lot of overnighting
>> > and cruises of up to a week or so and looked for an interior and
>> > options that seemed to suit that purpose.
>> >
>> > I believe the boat that Rory was talking about that capsized was in
>> > NC and capsized as the result of a microburst pushing a wall of wind
>> > and water that caught the boat on the stern quarter. Tornados were
>> > reported in the area. In that case the boat floated upside down and
>> > was not righted until the rigging was cut away. A large number of
>> > boats were sunk that day. The Rhodes 22 was upside down but it
>> > floated. This is the only instance I have ever heard about a R22
>> > actually completely capsizing. Under "normal" severe conditions the
>> > Rhodes will do quite well.
>> >
>> > Best wishes and good luck.
>> >
>> > Mary Lou
>> > 1991 R22  Fretless
>> > Rock Hall, MD
>> >
>> > At 06:22 PM 12/15/2007, you wrote:
>> >
>> >>Welcome,
>> >>     I am across the bay from you on Tilghman Island and would be happy
>> to
>> >>help . There a number of Rhodes on the bay.. I have a 2000 referb and
>> >>frankly I don't know if it has the diamond keel or not.
>> >>I suspect it does.. I would doubt that the keel style has all that much
>> >>effect on sailability but I would leave that answer to others.. A new
>> boat
>> >>might entail a longer wait ..
>> >>            I don't know quite what you mean by self righting.. If the
>> >> boat
>> >>is heeled over hard, the hull drag will slow you enough to keep from
>> >>capsizing in any situation I have seen.. I have had it hard on the rail
>>lots
>> >>of times.It is fun but not really where you want to be if trimmed right
>>for
>> >>speed.
>> >>That being said, a microburst did capsize a Rhodes several years ago
>> here
>> >>near Knapps Narrows. The mast I believe was impaled in the mud and
>>prevented
>> >>it from geting righted.. I don't know what would happen if it were deep
>> >>enough to do a full turtle.. It has lots of flotation. Stan would have
>> to
>> >>tell you how a fully water loaded Rhodes will float but I think it
>> would
>> >>sink only as far as the gunwales. I do not know of a safer boat in its
>>size
>> >>range..If sudden storms are your concern.. reef 95% of your sails for
>> >>stability and /or head into the wind using the motor or anchor. The
>> upper
>> >>and middle Bay are so narrow, you are not far from some shelter most of
>>the
>> >>time. Lower bay can be a good bit worse though there are some pretty
>> rough
>> >>conditions on occasion in upper and middle.. Talk to as many
>> experienced
>> >>sailors as you can find..
>> >>They will be happy to share their experiences and horror stories with
>> >>you..:-) How they reacted to problems is always a lesson in what to do
>> or
>> >>not to do.
>> >>                                 Rory
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Tom Hogarty wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hello, I'm new to sailing, just leased a slip on the Chesapeake,
>> >> Holiday
>> >> > Hill Marina, Mayo, Maryland, and have decided to get a Rhodes.  Stan
>> >> just
>> >> > received our deposit, and we have not yet decided which boat to
>> >> purchase.
>> >> > Does anyone on this list have one for sale?  Does anyone have enough
>> >> > experience with the new diamond keel to say it justify the cost of a
>> >> new
>> >> > boat?  Does anything remotely related to a boat have to be
>> justified?
>> >> > I understand that these are hard to capsize and have positive
>> >> flotation,
>> >> > are they self righting as well?
>> >> >
>> >> > Many thanks,
>> >> > Tom Hogarty
>> >> >
>> >>
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