[Rhodes22-list] Jay Bulfer, Captain Rummy asked, " What largertrailerable?"

[TN Rhodey]

Ed, Just as an FYI.....when water ballast is used correctly it is safe. The 
Mac26 rollover you like to reference is a perfect example. The boat had no 
water ballast and was over loaded. This was "user error". A rookie skipper 
not reefing in heavy winds causes capsize......are sails unsafe? Are you 
going to blame the sails or the skipper?

Water ballast has been safely used by the US Navy, commercial, and pleasure 
boats a long time. Sailboats have used water ballast for hundreds of years. 
Did you read about the 15 year old who just sailed a water ballast sail boat 
acoss the Atlantic?  It is also a trailer sailor? Check out some of the sail 
boats made in Europe and down under.....these folks seem to have many more 
options than we do here in the states. Many are water ballast.

Now don't get me wrong....I do like the R22 design and use of ballast but I 
am always amused by folks trying to make it seem like a Mac 26 is a ticking 
time bomb. Now if you would have said the new Mac 26 is ugly and doesn't 
sail well I would agree!

For my use I would not want a R22 as 100% trailer sailor. Although the R22 
is easier than most to launch and retireve I would not want to mess with 
every time. That is why I slip my boat. I admit I am lazy but I do love to 
sail!

Wally


>From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Jay Bulfer, Captain Rummy asked," What 
>largertrailerable?"
>Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:15:20 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>Jay, et al;
>
>      I left out part of second paragraph!  It should read, " In todays
>market, and in the real world a sailboat " LARGER THAN A RHODES 22," that
>one man or one man and his wife can safely and easily launch and retrieve 
>is
>not currently made.
>
>(Again, I do not consider sailboats at 25& 26 feet using water ballast true
>and safe sailboats.)
>
>Ed K
>Greenville, SC, USA
>
>
>Tootle wrote:
> >
> > Jay:
> >
> >      Captain Rummy asked a very important question, "What larger
> > trailerable?"
> >
> >       In todays market, and in the real world a sailboat that one man or
> > one man and his wife can safely and easily launch and retrieve is not
> > currently made.
> >
> >        If you think, that the sailboats advertised in the 25-26 range 
>that
> > utilize water ballast are safe for the trips that you propose, then 
>think
> > and carefully analyze them.  I would say that you should carefully study
> > the safety issues involved with production sailboats using water 
>ballast.
> > I will leave the details to your research.  You may have seen
> > advertisements for a Mac 26.  That is a motorboat first and sailboat
> > second.
> >
> >       There are essentially few concepts of sailboats that are 
>trailerable
> > and still a sail boat.  Those concepts involve either a stubby keel or a
> > centerboard or a combination thereof.  There have been boats designed 
>with
> > neither but still utilized ballast.
> > http://www.sailorschoice.com/Terms/sctermsletterc.htm
> >
> >         The centerboard concept can be a swing or pivot centerboard or a
> > dagger board.  In those boats involving a stubby keel the ballast will
> > usually be found in the stubby keel and the centerboard will 
>non-weighted
> > whereas in the non keel version the ballast will be in centerboard or
> > dagger board.
> >
> >           You may have seen bigger sailboats on trailers, but they will 
>be
> > launched and retrieved either with multiple help or the assistance of 
>boat
> > cranes or such devices.  A man and his wife will not launch these boats.
> > Those boats while able to be put on a trailer for transport or end of
> > season are not considered ‘trailerable sailboats’.  A current 
>example of
> > such a boat is the Seaward 26 which General Boats also sells.  See
> > http://www.Rhodes22.com
> >
> >            Another example of such a boat is the Com-Pac 23.  The
> > president of Com Pac specifically told me in person that it was designed
> > for end of season storage.  Not for routine trailering.
> >
> >            You may really want a powerboat.  We are sail boaters.  
>Please
> > note that we do have sail boaters who snorkel and scuba also.
> >
> > Ed K
> > Greenville, SC, USA
> > Addendum:  http://www.geocities.com/cjstein_2000/dictionary.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > R22RumRunner wrote:
> >>
> >> What larger trailerable?
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