[Rhodes22-list] Economics - More Good News
stan
stan at rhodes22.com
Tue Jul 17 14:23:57 EDT 2007
Brad,
I have not been as fortunate in having a chance to learn economics - that
may be a disadvantage as to the "Why", but I am not disadvantaged as to the
facts: The Inflation of the past 2 or 3 years has not been this bad since
the Carter administration.
Thanks Ed, but I am busy and these breaks are just for comic relief.
ss
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Economics - More Good News
> Dave,
>
> You are starting to bore me with your "there's a government boogieman"
> approach to every issue. I hated studying economics in undergrad and grad
> school and I'll be damned if I'm going to teach it. Have a nice day!
>
> Brad
>
> On 7/16/07, DCLewis1 at aol.com <DCLewis1 at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 7/16/2007 6:21:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> flybrad at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> The prime result of 'printing' money is inflation. Inflation is low.
>> Show
>> me the money!
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad,
>>
>> Inflation is low? The price of my house, and probably your
>> house, doubled
>> in the last 6 years. That's more than 12%/yr compounded appreciation.
>> I
>> believe housing is about 1/3 of the CPI, so if the price of nothing else
>> at all
>> increased over the last 6 years you have minimum of 4% inflation per
>> year
>> -
>> the Feds have been claiming 2.5% to 3% growth in the CPI this year and
>> less in
>> earlier years. But in addition we know the price of gas has more than
>> doubled in that time frame, again that's more than 12%/yr; gas won't
>> have
>> nearly
>> the same weighting in the CPI as housing, but it will add. And
>> virtually
>> every other component in the CPI will add as well, except for underwear
>> made in
>> China. There is absolutely no way inflation is even roughly what the
>> Feds are
>> claiming. They distinguish between "core" inflation and "non-core"
>> inflation, it's BS - from your and my perspective there is only
>> inflation
>> and the
>> number they report should have the qualifier "would you believe?". They
>> tell
>> you inflation is "contained" - what in the world does that mean? My
>> guess
>> is that inflation is at least 5%, maybe more - actually, in Greenspan's
>> last
>> years I think inflation approached 10%, because of housing inflation.
>> If
>> your income and the price of all your goods and chattels have not
>> increased
>> dramatically over the past 6 years, you've fallen behind.
>>
>> Your government does very well when they under report inflation. The
>> leadership looks good. At least as important as looking good, it allows
>> them to
>> inflate out of the fiscal mess they have created. Example: income tax
>> receipts
>> are intrinsically indexed to inflation (unless the $ is moving abroad),
>> but
>> by understating inflation they can provide a reduced COLA to all those
>> military and government pensions they have to fund - over time
>> the government will
>> do all right, and the retirees will be impoverished. It works!
>> Example:
>> if
>> the gap between real inflation and the CPI were 2% to 3% (the Fed is
>> currently reporting inflation of 2% to 3%, I claim it's at least 5%, the
>> gap is 2% to
>> 3%) the value of a military retirees pension would decrease by 16% to
>> 24%
>> in
>> constant dollars after 8 years. The military retirement system looks
>> extremely generous, but the Feds have figured out how to inflate the
>> burden away.
>> Of course people with private pensions have similar, and generally
>> worse,
>> problems.
>>
>> Seriously, we need a independent organization that will track inflation.
>> The government has a massive vested interest in reporting low numbers
>> and
>> it
>> has been a lot less than straightforward with the American people. You
>> can't
>> believe their CPI numbers. Don't believe me do your own due diligence,
>> dig
>> out some medical bills, or gas receipts, check out your home assessment,
>> property tax, etc from 5 or 6 years ago, and compare against your
>> current
>> costs, you
>> 'll see that I'm not making this stuff up.
>>
>> One down side to reporting accurate inflation numbers might be that the
>> general public would see how bad the situation really is and they might
>> bail out
>> of the US dollar. That could really kill the economy.
>>
>> Ed's claim is the inflation is a result of competition from China and
>> India
>> for commodities, there is measure of truth in that. But it also
>> appears
>> your government has been running it's printing presses
>> overtime, increasing the
>> money supply - perhaps to help fund the war in Iraq etc and still have a
>> tax
>> cut - that's a guaranteed way to generate inflation (and kill the
>> foreign
>> exchange rate, which is being killed) - of course, if they tell
>> you there's no
>> inflation, there's no inflation, right?. Finally, we have started to
>> import
>> inflation from China, India, etc - early on the impact of China, India
>> etc was
>> deflationary (i.e. cheap goods) but now wages are going up as those
>> countries develop - wages are still cheap, but not as cheap - and
>> we're seeing that
>> inflation as we import those goods and services. I think this last
>> effect is
>> particularly obvious in the Indian based software and software support
>> service sector. Part of the "joy" associated with the development of a
>> complex
>> global economy is that the US becomes vulnerable to events
>> and circumstances we
>> can't control - importing inflation from India and China is an example.
>>
>> As for giving the president line item veto authority - I once thought
>> that
>> would work, but Mr Bush is a case study showing it won't work. If it's
>> not a
>> faith based issue or about the war in Iraq there's no suggestion he'd
>> veto
>> anything. I can't think of a single thing he's done to try to
>> control spending
>> or balance the budget, that's why he's called a new-conservative.
>>
>> Finally, as for the US debt/GNP being no worse than France - I'm
>> perplexed
>> that you would make that comparison. I never thought you'd hold up the
>> pseudo-Socialist government of France as a benchmark. I remember the
>> day in my
>> youth that the government of France declared bankruptcy. We should do
>> better.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
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