[Rhodes22-list] Close Haul Question Excellent Question

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Lee:

This is an excellent question.

The best answers will come from Peter, Wally, and Rummy.  This would have
been a question for Roger P., may he sail in peace.

At that wind speed, I question having traveler to windward.  Isn't that just
going to increase heel?  

At 10 knots wind on a close reach, I think that the Genoa outside would
still produce the most drive.  I ususally only put the Genoa inside on close
haul.  

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
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Leland wrote:
> 
> I typically sail on a beam to close reach for fun and so I end up back at
> the marina without having to motor.
> 
> Yesterday I decided to do a destination sail.  There was a small craft
> advisory due to heavy chop, but winds were generally less than 15 knots. 
> I started with a full main and no genoa just to try it out.  I was on a
> run and immediately exceeded theoretical hull speed.  It was fun riding
> the waves but I certainly had to stay focused--a couple of times I let the
> chop hit me on the beam and I felt like the boat was going to roll over. 
> After about 30 minutes the chop died to about two foot waves and I enjoyed
> a fast broad reach for about an hour.  By this point I had reached the
> shipping channel in the middle of the Chesapeake, and decided it was time
> to turn back.  Since the last hour had mostly been a broad reach, I
> figured I could follow the same path home on a close reach.  The wind and
> waves got a little better, yet it still took me five hours of sailing and
> a half an hour of motoring to get back to the marina.  Part of the delay
> was experimenting with different adjustments and spending more time going
> fast than into the wind, but I still felt like I could have done something
> different to make better time.
> 
> In about a 10 knot wind, full main, 10 to 15 degrees of heel, 120% genoa
> rigged to the outside, board up, boom and poptop up, close reach; I could
> steadily maintain 5 to 5.5 knots, even with a little chop.
> 
> In about a 10 knot wind, full main, 10 to 15 degrees of heel, 100% genoa
> rigged between the mast and inner shroud, board down, boom and poptop
> down, traveler to windward, close haul; I could only do 1.5 to 2 knots.
> 
> Question:  If your destination is into the wind, do you make better time
> going slow into the wind, or fast off the wind, or somewhere in between? 
> I assume the answer is slow into the wind with lots of tacks, but it just
> didn't feel that way.  Also, is there something I could have done to
> improve my speed into the wind?  Any advice is appreciated.
> 
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
> Crab Alley (Kent Island, MD)
> 

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