[Rhodes22-list] Close Haul Question Excellent Question

[TN Rhodey]

Lee,

Upwind beats in 10 knots....as Ed suggests I wouldn't have traveler to
windward. This helps in lighter air but at 10 knots a neutral traveler
adjustment is best. If gusty you may want to have traveler adjusted to lee
side some. A 175 furled down to 100 is not going to head upwind well
regardless of sheeting angles. I would think a 155 in 10 knots with full
main would work fine. Off the wind in 10 knots I wouldn't reeef or furl
anything. I usually furl main first then adjust genny.

Wally






On 5/22/07, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>
>
> Lee:
>
> This is an excellent question.
>
> The best answers will come from Peter, Wally, and Rummy.  This would have
> been a question for Roger P., may he sail in peace.
>
> At that wind speed, I question having traveler to windward.  Isn't that
> just
> going to increase heel?
>
> At 10 knots wind on a close reach, I think that the Genoa outside would
> still produce the most drive.  I ususally only put the Genoa inside on
> close
> haul.
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> Addendum:"When people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong.  When
> people thought the earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think
> that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the
> earth
> is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together."
> Asimov's axiom as quoted by Michael Shermer
>
>
>
>
> Leland wrote:
> >
> > I typically sail on a beam to close reach for fun and so I end up back
> at
> > the marina without having to motor.
> >
> > Yesterday I decided to do a destination sail.  There was a small craft
> > advisory due to heavy chop, but winds were generally less than 15 knots.
> > I started with a full main and no genoa just to try it out.  I was on a
> > run and immediately exceeded theoretical hull speed.  It was fun riding
> > the waves but I certainly had to stay focused--a couple of times I let
> the
> > chop hit me on the beam and I felt like the boat was going to roll over.
> > After about 30 minutes the chop died to about two foot waves and I
> enjoyed
> > a fast broad reach for about an hour.  By this point I had reached the
> > shipping channel in the middle of the Chesapeake, and decided it was
> time
> > to turn back.  Since the last hour had mostly been a broad reach, I
> > figured I could follow the same path home on a close reach.  The wind
> and
> > waves got a little better, yet it still took me five hours of sailing
> and
> > a half an hour of motoring to get back to the marina.  Part of the delay
> > was experimenting with different adjustments and spending more time
> going
> > fast than into the wind, but I still felt like I could have done
> something
> > different to make better time.
> >
> > In about a 10 knot wind, full main, 10 to 15 degrees of heel, 120% genoa
> > rigged to the outside, board up, boom and poptop up, close reach; I
> could
> > steadily maintain 5 to 5.5 knots, even with a little chop.
> >
> > In about a 10 knot wind, full main, 10 to 15 degrees of heel, 100% genoa
> > rigged between the mast and inner shroud, board down, boom and poptop
> > down, traveler to windward, close haul; I could only do 1.5 to 2 knots.
> >
> > Question:  If your destination is into the wind, do you make better time
> > going slow into the wind, or fast off the wind, or somewhere in between?
> > I assume the answer is slow into the wind with lots of tacks, but it
> just
> > didn't feel that way.  Also, is there something I could have done to
> > improve my speed into the wind?  Any advice is appreciated.
> >
> > Lee
> > 1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
> > Crab Alley (Kent Island, MD)
> >
>
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