[Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory

Bud budconnor at earthlink.net
Thu May 31 21:27:01 EDT 2007


Rory,
  two 50# bags of playground sand placed under the starboard cockpit 
bench seat (placed forward) will level
your boat out nicely.

-Bud

Rory Orkin wrote:

>I did not think about the beam wise level.. On water , that is harder than
>you might think with the new 4 stroke engine weight and the gas tank on that
>side as well. I underthunk it.. :-)
>
>
>Todd Tavares wrote:
>  
>
>> All,
>>I haven't taken time to read all of the laz/drain posts, but you guys are
>>way over thinking the problem. A boat that old had 3/4" drain "thru-hull"
>>fittings.  The actual ID was more like 3/8" and would quickly be swamped
>>during a hard rain.  First the boat should be dead level beam wise to
>>keep one drain from getting more water.  But the best fix is to go to 1"
>>or 1 1/8" plastic fittings (both have the same diameter bodies).   If you
>>do not have a dremel tool or roto-zip, buy a roto-zip bit and put it in
>>your drill to enlarge the holes.  Both sides took me about an hour and a
>>half, not counting sealer drying time.
>>
>>Todd T.
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: "Rory Orkin"
>>  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory
>>  Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:35:37 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>
>>
>>  Would it be Feasable rather than replacing the existing ones.. to add
>>  2
>>  additional ones to increase the drainage capacity ? That way all
>>  holes could
>>  be cut for the exact new size.
>>
>>  Hank-5 wrote:
>>  >
>>  > I haven't figured out exactly what I want to use yet. I'd like to
>>  find
>>  > something with a strainer on it to keep the leaves and other crap
>>  out, but
>>  > all of those that I have seen are flush mount which means I have to
>>  bevel
>>  > the hole. Not something I look forward to doing. When I decide,
>>  I'll let
>>  > you know.
>>  >
>>  > Hank
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > On 5/31/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> It was Hank who was going to try to increase the fittings and
>>  hose..
>>  >> Sounds
>>  >> like a good Idea but I would ask him what he is going to use .. I
>>  think
>>  >> it
>>  >> may be a job on the rear drains and of course the through hulls
>>  have to
>>  >> be
>>  >> at least as large as the uppers. It seems like this is a more
>>  common
>>  >> problem
>>  >> than I first thought
>>  >>
>>  >> Todd Zumach wrote:
>>  >> >
>>  >> > Rory,
>>  >> >
>>  >> > What do you plan to use for fittings and hose? I am considering
>>  the
>>  >> same
>>  >> > project, because my current (1/2"?) holes frequently clog with
>>  Birch
>>  >> > twigs,
>>  >> > leaves, and such. I found some surface mount fittings (vs. flush
>>  >> mount)
>>  >> > but
>>  >> > I am concerned about the room available in the corners of seats
>>  being
>>  >> too
>>  >> > small to accept the fitting without too much water being left
>>  standing.
>>  >> >
>>  >> > The other day we had a deluge and I had 6 inches of water in the
>>  >> > lazzerette
>>  >> > and a couple inches in the bilge. It took me about 45 minutes to
>>  clear
>>  >> it
>>  >> > all out. I checked the next day and the lazz was dry and the
>>  bilge was
>>  >> > still
>>  >> > seaping some water (from the lazz?, I checked all the hatches
>>  and other
>>  >> > cabin related areas and found them to be dry and tight). Today
>>  we had
>>  >> > another brief but very hard rain. I just checked and found a
>>  pint or
>>  >> so
>>  >> > in
>>  >> > the lazz.
>>  >> >
>>  >> > I have had my boat set on the trailer with the bow up and now
>>  with the
>>  >> bow
>>  >> > down (cockpit seats are nearly level). I think with with bow up,
>>  there
>>  >> > was
>>  >> > so much water flowing to the stern that the drains didn't have a
>>  >> chance.
>>  >> > With the cockpit seats closer to level, I am hoping to give the
>>  drains
>>  >> a
>>  >> > little extra time to flush.
>>  >> >
>>  >> > I too am looking at some form of gasket material around the lazz
>>  hatch.
>>  >> > Let
>>  >> > me know what you come up with.
>>  >> >
>>  >> > Thanks,
>>  >> >
>>  >> > Todd Z.
>>  >> > Phillips, WI
>>  >> >
>>  >> > On 5/30/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >> Never thought of that.. I would think that if the hose is
>>  smaller than
>>  >> >> the
>>  >> >> input or output then it could reduce the flow causing a backup.
>>  I
>>  >> would
>>  >> >> not
>>  >> >> want to be fooling with the through hulls though myself.
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >> Hank-5 wrote:
>>  >> >> >
>>  >> >> > Rory,
>>  >> >> >
>>  >> >> > I think my boat has the same problem, but I intend to tackle
>>  it a
>>  >> >> little
>>  >> >> > different. My drain fittings and hoses are rather small and I
>>  plan
>>  >> to
>>  >> >> > install larger fittings and hoses so the water won't be able
>>  to
>>  >> build
>>  >> >> up.
>>  >> >> >
>>  >> >> > Hank
>>  >> >> >
>>  >> >> >
>>  >> >> > On 5/29/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>>  >> >> >>
>>  >> >> >>
>>  >> >> >> Not presumptuous at all but yes I did exactly that. There is
>>  only
>>  >> >> about
>>  >> >> a
>>  >> >> >> 1
>>  >> >> >> inch lip in the lazarette. The hatch does overlap that but
>>  there is
>>  >> at
>>  >> >> >> least
>>  >> >> >> a 1/2" gap there which of course will allow water in if the
>>  water
>>  >> >> build
>>  >> >> >> up
>>  >> >> >> is greater than the aprox 1 inch molded in lip at the
>>  lazarette.
>>  >> This
>>  >> >> is
>>  >> >> >> why
>>  >> >> >> I was exploring some kind of weather stripping .. I am
>>  hoping that
>>  >> >> >> perhaps
>>  >> >> >> leveling the boat or perhaps a slight bit of forward angle
>>  will
>>  >> stop
>>  >> >> the
>>  >> >> >> flooding around the lazarette cover.. Since this does not
>>  seem to
>>  >> be
>>  >> a
>>  >> >> >> widespread problem then hopefully that will be the answer.
>>  Since
>>  >> Rummy
>>  >> >> >> says
>>  >> >> >> his is a little bow heavy and leans that way normally then
>>  that
>>  >> could
>>  >> >> be
>>  >> >> >> the
>>  >> >> >> answer. Of course we have not had rain here for 2-1/2
>>  >> >> >> weeks the problem has not been a problem lately :-) Thanks
>>  for the
>>  >> >> reply.
>>  >> >> >> Rory
>>  >> >> >>
>>  >> >> >> Woten wrote:
>>  >> >> >> >
>>  >> >> >> >
>>  >> >> >> > Rory,
>>  >> >> >> >
>>  >> >> >> > It may be presumptuous of me to ask this, but have you
>>  dried out
>>  >> >> your
>>  >> >> >> lazz
>>  >> >> >> > entirely, closed up the lazz, actually pointed a hose on
>>  and
>>  >> around
>>  >> >> >> just
>>  >> >> >> > the
>>  >> >> >> > lazz cover and the immediate area, dumped water on it
>>  hard, and
>>  >> >> found
>>  >> >> >> > water in
>>  >> >> >> > your lazz?
>>  >> >> >> >
>>  >> >> >> > Dave
>>  >> >> >> >
>>  >> >> >> >
>>  >> >> >> >
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