[Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory
Rory Orkin
roryorkin at earthlink.net
Thu May 31 22:04:39 EDT 2007
And have the additional benefit of being available for traction in snow :-)
Bud_On_Rhodes wrote:
>
> Rory,
> two 50# bags of playground sand placed under the starboard cockpit
> bench seat (placed forward) will level
> your boat out nicely.
>
> -Bud
>
> Rory Orkin wrote:
>
>>I did not think about the beam wise level.. On water , that is harder than
>>you might think with the new 4 stroke engine weight and the gas tank on
that
>>side as well. I underthunk it.. :-)
>>
>>
>>Todd Tavares wrote:
>>
>>
>>> All,
>>>I haven't taken time to read all of the laz/drain posts, but you guys are
>>>way over thinking the problem. A boat that old had 3/4" drain "thru-hull"
>>>fittings. The actual ID was more like 3/8" and would quickly be swamped
>>>during a hard rain. First the boat should be dead level beam wise to
>>>keep one drain from getting more water. But the best fix is to go to 1"
>>>or 1 1/8" plastic fittings (both have the same diameter bodies). If you
>>>do not have a dremel tool or roto-zip, buy a roto-zip bit and put it in
>>>your drill to enlarge the holes. Both sides took me about an hour and a
>>>half, not counting sealer drying time.
>>>
>>>Todd T.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rory Orkin"
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory
>>> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:35:37 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Would it be Feasable rather than replacing the existing ones.. to add
>>> 2
>>> additional ones to increase the drainage capacity ? That way all
>>> holes could
>>> be cut for the exact new size.
>>>
>>> Hank-5 wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I haven't figured out exactly what I want to use yet. I'd like to
>>> find
>>> > something with a strainer on it to keep the leaves and other crap
>>> out, but
>>> > all of those that I have seen are flush mount which means I have to
>>> bevel
>>> > the hole. Not something I look forward to doing. When I decide,
>>> I'll let
>>> > you know.
>>> >
>>> > Hank
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 5/31/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> It was Hank who was going to try to increase the fittings and
>>> hose..
>>> >> Sounds
>>> >> like a good Idea but I would ask him what he is going to use .. I
>>> think
>>> >> it
>>> >> may be a job on the rear drains and of course the through hulls
>>> have to
>>> >> be
>>> >> at least as large as the uppers. It seems like this is a more
>>> common
>>> >> problem
>>> >> than I first thought
>>> >>
>>> >> Todd Zumach wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Rory,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > What do you plan to use for fittings and hose? I am considering
>>> the
>>> >> same
>>> >> > project, because my current (1/2"?) holes frequently clog with
>>> Birch
>>> >> > twigs,
>>> >> > leaves, and such. I found some surface mount fittings (vs. flush
>>> >> mount)
>>> >> > but
>>> >> > I am concerned about the room available in the corners of seats
>>> being
>>> >> too
>>> >> > small to accept the fitting without too much water being left
>>> standing.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The other day we had a deluge and I had 6 inches of water in the
>>> >> > lazzerette
>>> >> > and a couple inches in the bilge. It took me about 45 minutes to
>>> clear
>>> >> it
>>> >> > all out. I checked the next day and the lazz was dry and the
>>> bilge was
>>> >> > still
>>> >> > seaping some water (from the lazz?, I checked all the hatches
>>> and other
>>> >> > cabin related areas and found them to be dry and tight). Today
>>> we had
>>> >> > another brief but very hard rain. I just checked and found a
>>> pint or
>>> >> so
>>> >> > in
>>> >> > the lazz.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I have had my boat set on the trailer with the bow up and now
>>> with the
>>> >> bow
>>> >> > down (cockpit seats are nearly level). I think with with bow up,
>>> there
>>> >> > was
>>> >> > so much water flowing to the stern that the drains didn't have a
>>> >> chance.
>>> >> > With the cockpit seats closer to level, I am hoping to give the
>>> drains
>>> >> a
>>> >> > little extra time to flush.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I too am looking at some form of gasket material around the lazz
>>> hatch.
>>> >> > Let
>>> >> > me know what you come up with.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Todd Z.
>>> >> > Phillips, WI
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 5/30/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Never thought of that.. I would think that if the hose is
>>> smaller than
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> input or output then it could reduce the flow causing a backup.
>>> I
>>> >> would
>>> >> >> not
>>> >> >> want to be fooling with the through hulls though myself.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Hank-5 wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Rory,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I think my boat has the same problem, but I intend to tackle
>>> it a
>>> >> >> little
>>> >> >> > different. My drain fittings and hoses are rather small and I
>>> plan
>>> >> to
>>> >> >> > install larger fittings and hoses so the water won't be able
>>> to
>>> >> build
>>> >> >> up.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Hank
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On 5/29/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Not presumptuous at all but yes I did exactly that. There is
>>> only
>>> >> >> about
>>> >> >> a
>>> >> >> >> 1
>>> >> >> >> inch lip in the lazarette. The hatch does overlap that but
>>> there is
>>> >> at
>>> >> >> >> least
>>> >> >> >> a 1/2" gap there which of course will allow water in if the
>>> water
>>> >> >> build
>>> >> >> >> up
>>> >> >> >> is greater than the aprox 1 inch molded in lip at the
>>> lazarette.
>>> >> This
>>> >> >> is
>>> >> >> >> why
>>> >> >> >> I was exploring some kind of weather stripping .. I am
>>> hoping that
>>> >> >> >> perhaps
>>> >> >> >> leveling the boat or perhaps a slight bit of forward angle
>>> will
>>> >> stop
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> flooding around the lazarette cover.. Since this does not
>>> seem to
>>> >> be
>>> >> a
>>> >> >> >> widespread problem then hopefully that will be the answer.
>>> Since
>>> >> Rummy
>>> >> >> >> says
>>> >> >> >> his is a little bow heavy and leans that way normally then
>>> that
>>> >> could
>>> >> >> be
>>> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> answer. Of course we have not had rain here for 2-1/2
>>> >> >> >> weeks the problem has not been a problem lately :-) Thanks
>>> for the
>>> >> >> reply.
>>> >> >> >> Rory
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Woten wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Rory,
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > It may be presumptuous of me to ask this, but have you
>>> dried out
>>> >> >> your
>>> >> >> >> lazz
>>> >> >> >> > entirely, closed up the lazz, actually pointed a hose on
>>> and
>>> >> around
>>> >> >> >> just
>>> >> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> >> > lazz cover and the immediate area, dumped water on it
>>> hard, and
>>> >> >> found
>>> >> >> >> > water in
>>> >> >> >> > your lazz?
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Dave
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
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