[Rhodes22-list] Question, non sailing--Now High Wind Tacking

Thu Oct 25 00:25:11 EDT 2007

Hi Art,
This time we set the sail reefed but most times when we've shortened 
sail we've been overpowered so spilling a bit of wind is the least of 
our worries. In this case, if anything, we were slightly underpowered 
and at one point let a little more of the genoa out.

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD

At 07:21 PM 10/24/2007, you wrote:
>MaryLou, Lee,
>I experienced similer tacking hesitation the day I tried to meet 
>with Lee on the bay, similar conditions, maybe a bit heavier.  I was 
>much too busy to re-route the sheets.  Here's my question about your 
>experience.  Were you able to avoid spilling wind along the foot of 
>the Genny while it had to be shortened, or did you notice?  I have 
>my thoughts on this, but interested in yours.
>Art
>
>-----Original Message-----
> >From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
> >Sent: Oct 23, 2007 1:35 PM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Question, non sailing--Now High Wind  Tacking
> >
> >Hi Lee,
> >We were also out yesterday and found we really needed to keep speed
> >up to tack. Closehauled on starboard (usually our best tack) we
> >discovered that the angle of the waves was such that the waves were
> >pushing the bow downwind as they rolled up to us.. We also hadn't
> >lifted the motor so that may have been a factor as well. We also had
> >the boom down with full mainsail with the genoa reefed to a little
> >over 110. We didn't run the sheets inside the shrouds but probably
> >should have. We had the centerboard down - not sure if it helped us
> >turn but it certainly helped us sail away from Swan Pt which was our
> >lee shore. We were out in the early afternoon and had a strong
> >inbound tidal current to deal with as well.
> >
> >Best,
> >Mary Lou
> >
> >
> >At 01:20 PM 10/23/2007, you wrote:
> >>Big Al,
> >>
> >>Good trivia--never knew that.
> >>
> >>Had a great afternoon of sailing yesterday although it was a little
> >>windy and choppy (12-15 knot winds, 3-5 foot chop).  Typically I have
> >>trouble tacking in those conditions, but yesterday not so much.  Since
> >>I'm not sure what I was doing right, I could use some advice.  I had the
> >>boom down with full mainsail out and the genoa was reefed to about 100%
> >>with the sheets ran between the shrouds on the cabin sides.
> >>
> >>The centerboard was up.  Wouldn't it make more sense to have it down so
> >>you could turn quicker?
> >>
> >>When tacking, I turned the tiller as hard and fast as I could.  I
> >>thought you should tack slowly in small boats?
> >>
> >>Speed was about 3.5 to 4 knots (close reach), which might be a little
> >>faster than normal for these conditions, which might be the only reason
> >>I had no trouble tacking.
> >>
> >>I tried to time my tack with the chop, so the rudder turned when it was
> >>at the top of a wave.  The idea was to turn the boat before the next
> >>wave hit, which was largely unsuccessful.
> >>
> >>Anything else I should or should not do?
> >>
> >>Thanks!
> >>
> >>Lee
> >>1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
> >>Crab Alley (Kent Island, MD)
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Alan Robertson [mailto:bigal_61 at msn.com]
> >>Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:39 PM
> >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Question, non sailing.
> >>
> >>In old days of the square riggers, when a vessel was tacking or coming
> >>about, if the sails were not released smartly and the yards braced
> >>accordingly , the sails and sheets would flap loosely in a slovenly
> >>drunken manner. Thus the expression 3 sheets to the windward sidel
> >>rather than to leeward where they should be on the new ship's heading.
> >>Big Al
> >>   ----- Original Message -----
> >>   From: Michael D. Weisner<mailto:mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> >>   To: The Rhodes 22 mail list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>   Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:48 PM
> >>   Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Question, non sailing.
> >>
> >>
> >>   Rob,
> >>
> >>   Why is this a non-sailing question?  You said "You're supposed to say
> >>you
> >>   remember listing to the song ... "  Listing is definitely a sailing
> >>term ;)
> >>   I know many of our times who could have been described as "listing"
> >>(or at
> >>   least several sheet to the wind.)
> >>
> >>   Mike
> >>   s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >>   Nissequogue River, NY
> >>
> >>   From: "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu<mailto:rlowe at vt.edu>> Monday, October
> >>22, 2007 12:27 PM
> >>
> >>   > Ahh, come on Hank.  You're supposed to say you remember listing to
> >>the
> >>   > song
> >>   > in your dorm room while you were smoking something and drinking (Mt.
> >>Gay)
> >>   > rum while the stereo was turned up to 11. - rob
> >>   >
> >>   >
> >>   > ----- Original Message -----
> >>   > From: "Hank" <hnw555 at gmail.com<mailto:hnw555 at gmail.com>>
> >>   > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> >><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
> >>   > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:50 AM
> >>   > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Question, non sailing.
> >>   >
> >>   >
> >>   >> I just entered the lyrics in google and the answer came up very
> >>easily.
> >>   >>
> >>   >> Hank
> >>   >>
> >>   >>
> >>   >> On 10/22/07, R22RumRunner at aol.com<mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> >><R22RumRunner at aol.com<mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com>> wrote:
> >>   >> >
> >>   >> > Thanks guys. I knew someone on the list would know.
> >>   >> >
> >>   >> > Rummy
> >>   >> >
> >>   >> >
> >>   >> >
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