[Rhodes22-list] Question, non sailing--Now High Wind Tacking
Leland
LKUHN at cnmc.org
Thu Oct 25 08:50:11 EDT 2007
Art,
I spill wind out of both sails and everything else all the time. I only get
concerned when I spill my drink.
Lee
Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>
> MaryLou, Lee,
> I experienced similer tacking hesitation the day I tried to meet with Lee
> on the bay, similar conditions, maybe a bit heavier. I was much too busy
> to re-route the sheets. Here's my question about your experience. Were
> you able to avoid spilling wind along the foot of the Genny while it had
> to be shortened, or did you notice? I have my thoughts on this, but
> interested in yours.
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>Sent: Oct 23, 2007 1:35 PM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Question, non sailing--Now High Wind Tacking
>>
>>Hi Lee,
>>We were also out yesterday and found we really needed to keep speed
>>up to tack. Closehauled on starboard (usually our best tack) we
>>discovered that the angle of the waves was such that the waves were
>>pushing the bow downwind as they rolled up to us.. We also hadn't
>>lifted the motor so that may have been a factor as well. We also had
>>the boom down with full mainsail with the genoa reefed to a little
>>over 110. We didn't run the sheets inside the shrouds but probably
>>should have. We had the centerboard down - not sure if it helped us
>>turn but it certainly helped us sail away from Swan Pt which was our
>>lee shore. We were out in the early afternoon and had a strong
>>inbound tidal current to deal with as well.
>>
>>Best,
>>Mary Lou
>>
>>
>>At 01:20 PM 10/23/2007, you wrote:
>>>Big Al,
>>>
>>>Good trivia--never knew that.
>>>
>>>Had a great afternoon of sailing yesterday although it was a little
>>>windy and choppy (12-15 knot winds, 3-5 foot chop). Typically I have
>>>trouble tacking in those conditions, but yesterday not so much. Since
>>>I'm not sure what I was doing right, I could use some advice. I had the
>>>boom down with full mainsail out and the genoa was reefed to about 100%
>>>with the sheets ran between the shrouds on the cabin sides.
>>>
>>>The centerboard was up. Wouldn't it make more sense to have it down so
>>>you could turn quicker?
>>>
>>>When tacking, I turned the tiller as hard and fast as I could. I
>>>thought you should tack slowly in small boats?
>>>
>>>Speed was about 3.5 to 4 knots (close reach), which might be a little
>>>faster than normal for these conditions, which might be the only reason
>>>I had no trouble tacking.
>>>
>>>I tried to time my tack with the chop, so the rudder turned when it was
>>>at the top of a wave. The idea was to turn the boat before the next
>>>wave hit, which was largely unsuccessful.
>>>
>>>Anything else I should or should not do?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Lee
>>>1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
>>>Crab Alley (Kent Island, MD)
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Alan Robertson [mailto:bigal_61 at msn.com]
>>>Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:39 PM
>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Question, non sailing.
>>>
>>>In old days of the square riggers, when a vessel was tacking or coming
>>>about, if the sails were not released smartly and the yards braced
>>>accordingly , the sails and sheets would flap loosely in a slovenly
>>>drunken manner. Thus the expression 3 sheets to the windward sidel
>>>rather than to leeward where they should be on the new ship's heading.
>>>Big Al
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Michael D. Weisner<mailto:mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Question, non sailing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob,
>>>
>>> Why is this a non-sailing question? You said "You're supposed to say
>>>you
>>> remember listing to the song ... " Listing is definitely a sailing
>>>term ;)
>>> I know many of our times who could have been described as "listing"
>>>(or at
>>> least several sheet to the wind.)
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>> From: "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu<mailto:rlowe at vt.edu>> Monday, October
>>>22, 2007 12:27 PM
>>>
>>> > Ahh, come on Hank. You're supposed to say you remember listing to
>>>the
>>> > song
>>> > in your dorm room while you were smoking something and drinking (Mt.
>>>Gay)
>>> > rum while the stereo was turned up to 11. - rob
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Hank" <hnw555 at gmail.com<mailto:hnw555 at gmail.com>>
>>> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>>><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>>
>>> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 11:50 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Question, non sailing.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> I just entered the lyrics in google and the answer came up very
>>>easily.
>>> >>
>>> >> Hank
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 10/22/07, R22RumRunner at aol.com<mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>>><R22RumRunner at aol.com<mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com>> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks guys. I knew someone on the list would know.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Rummy
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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