[Rhodes22-list] Take This Job and Shove It!

Steven Alm stevenalm at gmail.com
Thu Oct 25 18:20:52 EDT 2007


OK, I'll bite.  What does the TSA hide from us that I should worry about?

On 10/25/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Slim,
>
> Much too do about nothing!  NASA has had a reporting process for years
> where
> pilots could anonymously report problems without fear of certificate
> action.
> I've use it several times.  This telephone poll was no different. Really
> serious problems get run up the flag pole at the union level.  If you want
> to worry about something, worry about all the things the TSA hides that
> we're powerless to do anything about.
>
> Brad
>
> On 10/25/07, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Brad,
> >
> > You probably saw the report this week from NASA about all the safety
> > concerns that apparently are much worse than the public knows.  So much
> so
> > that they refused to release the info for fear of panicking the public
> and
> > costing the airlines gobs of money in lost revenue.  Some one privy to
> the
> > report sited many more bird strikes, more near miss mid-air collisions,
> > more
> > near miss ground collisions, etc.  They collected most of the data
> > interviewing pilots.  Have you found this to be the case?  Frequent
> fliers
> > want to know.
> >
> > Slim
> >
> > On 10/25/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hank,
> > >
> > > They keep the engines spooled.  If you notice, they were flying at
> flaps
> > > 22
> > > to keep the speed down.  Anything more than 22 the jet automatically
> > > retracts the flaps to keep from overstressing them and you get a
> > constant
> > > horn without the gear down.  I'm guessing they're doing about 150
> knots
> > at
> > > the dump. Not only is FOD a problem but I wonder how much engine life
> > they
> > > get running all that soot through the compressor section.  We were on
> > > break
> > > when I met them so we only got to visit for about 15 minutes.  They
> were
> > > an
> > > interesting bunch.  I'm happy to stick with moving rubber dogshit from
> > > point
> > > A to point B.
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > > On 10/25/07, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Brad,
> > > >
> > > > That is insane!  With the jet engine power lag, I would think that
> > would
> > > > be
> > > > an extremely dangerous way to make a living!  What about FOD flaming
> > out
> > > > the
> > > > engines?  Is that a risk?
> > > >
> > > > Hank
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/25/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I met these guys last year while teaching in our old DC-10 sim in
> > > Miami.
> > > > > They're nuts!  Brad
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a7_1193165376
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