[Rhodes22-list] Take This Job and Shove It!

[Brad Haslett]

Slim,

That's not for public discussion.  You can start here for a taste of what
goes on -

http://www.theaviationnation.com/

A lot of stuff is known around the industry that doesn't make the press.
The system is routinely probed and tested.  Just last week the TSA admitted
that 70% plus fake bombs made it past screeners at some locations.  Everyone
in the profession takes security very serious.  Remember Richard Reid the
Shoe Bomber?  He was profiled by a ticket agent who was a former El Al
employee.  El Al profiles everyone.  The French authorities let him board
the second day and fortunately his sneaker was wet and wouldn't light.  An
observant flight attendant and burly passenger saved the day.  We in the US
of course won't profile because it isn't PC.

Brad

On 10/25/07, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> OK, I'll bite.  What does the TSA hide from us that I should worry about?
>
> On 10/25/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Slim,
> >
> > Much too do about nothing!  NASA has had a reporting process for years
> > where
> > pilots could anonymously report problems without fear of certificate
> > action.
> > I've use it several times.  This telephone poll was no different. Really
> > serious problems get run up the flag pole at the union level.  If you
> want
> > to worry about something, worry about all the things the TSA hides that
> > we're powerless to do anything about.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On 10/25/07, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Brad,
> > >
> > > You probably saw the report this week from NASA about all the safety
> > > concerns that apparently are much worse than the public knows.  So
> much
> > so
> > > that they refused to release the info for fear of panicking the public
> > and
> > > costing the airlines gobs of money in lost revenue.  Some one privy to
> > the
> > > report sited many more bird strikes, more near miss mid-air
> collisions,
> > > more
> > > near miss ground collisions, etc.  They collected most of the data
> > > interviewing pilots.  Have you found this to be the case?  Frequent
> > fliers
> > > want to know.
> > >
> > > Slim
> > >
> > > On 10/25/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hank,
> > > >
> > > > They keep the engines spooled.  If you notice, they were flying at
> > flaps
> > > > 22
> > > > to keep the speed down.  Anything more than 22 the jet automatically
> > > > retracts the flaps to keep from overstressing them and you get a
> > > constant
> > > > horn without the gear down.  I'm guessing they're doing about 150
> > knots
> > > at
> > > > the dump. Not only is FOD a problem but I wonder how much engine
> life
> > > they
> > > > get running all that soot through the compressor section.  We were
> on
> > > > break
> > > > when I met them so we only got to visit for about 15 minutes.  They
> > were
> > > > an
> > > > interesting bunch.  I'm happy to stick with moving rubber dogshit
> from
> > > > point
> > > > A to point B.
> > > >
> > > > Brad
> > > >
> > > > On 10/25/07, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad,
> > > > >
> > > > > That is insane!  With the jet engine power lag, I would think that
> > > would
> > > > > be
> > > > > an extremely dangerous way to make a living!  What about FOD
> flaming
> > > out
> > > > > the
> > > > > engines?  Is that a risk?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hank
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/25/07, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I met these guys last year while teaching in our old DC-10 sim
> in
> > > > Miami.
> > > > > > They're nuts!  Brad
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1a7_1193165376
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