[Rhodes22-list] Political response to answer to question for Chris Geankoplis regarding emergency care

[Tootle]

Chris said, “I went to the emergency room in Greece and was immediately
seen.”

However, the problem is that is not what is happening in America today. 
Freeloaders and uneducated are using the emergency rooms as their primary
medical care.  Furthermore, medical doctors often disregard the issue of
inappropriate use of emergency rooms for whatever reasons which results in
delays for real emergency care while they treat a sick but not acute
indigent.

Having worked for many years in support of emergency rooms, so much of what
I did was not real medical emergency care that eventually I and many others
got disillusioned with what is going on.  Your examples are illustrative of
what emergency rooms are for and should be for.  The charges are not fair,
but that is not my issue in this reply.

This comment was only in reply to Chris and is not intended for others to
springboard political discussion.

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
“Liberalism was born when Satan told Eve, “Do want you want to do.”  This is
contrary to God’s meaning of freedom.  The Bible says God made mankind and
put him in the Garden of Eden to care for it.  That is what freedom in
democracy means – opportunity plus responsibility.  Liberalism removes
responsibility from freedom.  Socialism removes opportunity.”  Charles A.
Dobson
  


Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> 
> Herb,
> 
> Religion isn't my thing, even though one of my good friends and frequent
> dinner companions is a pastor.  That said, I have nothing but praise for
> the
> thousands of church groups who have contributed time, money, and material
> to
> the Katrina recovery. Their achievements have far surpassed any made by
> the
> governments for timeliness and effectiveness.  Now as to stealing someone
> else's worldly goods and redistributing it, I plead guilty.  My best
> friend
> of 30 plus years  bought a flooded house in Gulfport.  We used his yard as
> a
> spot to park our campers and equipment for over six months.  We also
> cleaned-up the neighborhood of debris, including several pallets of lumber
> that washed ashore from the docks.  My buddy considered it his lumber - I
> saw it as 'community' lumber.  Some Mennonites were in the neighborhood
> patching-up houses and asked if they could have some of our roof decking.
> "Sure", I jumped on a skid-steer and delivered it to them.  When my buddy
> found out he was major pissed and didn't speak to me for months.  Oh well.
> 
> Brad
> 
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Sorry Chris, I have to disagree about the "Judeo Christian ethics" part.
>> Yes, the Bible says "something about helping the less fortunate".
>> Unfortunately, it would seem you misunderstood the point. That's for the
>> person READING to help others. They do that by giving THEIR worldly
>> goods, not the worldly goods of others.
>>
>> Jesus never told anyone, rich young man or poor old man "Go, take your
>> neighbors belongings, sell them and give to the poor."
>>
>> Chris Geankoplis wrote:
>> > Ed As the used to say on Saturday Night Live,
>> >
>> > Cheesburger, Cheeseburger, Cheesburger, Pepsi.
>> >
>> > Look, when I had what appeared to be a thrombosis I went to the
>> emergency
>> > room in Greece and was immediatly seen and attentenede by 3 doctors and
>> > given blood thinners, no I was not given the private room but they did
>> a
>> > good job and I had to pay $4.50.  My nephew had a series of 3 x rays
>> and
>> a
>> > cast put on (not a lucky trip) and again $4.50.  I would rather have
>> > something less than the very very best for the few and nothing for the
>> many
>> > but instead, perhaps some "inconvience" and care for all the people.
>> Sorry
>> > if you hear Marks and Engles cheering, it isn't, it is the Judeo
>> Christian
>> > ethic (you know the one that says something about helping the less
>> > fortunate).  It does cost us something, but the aqusition and
>> protection
>> of
>> > welth is not the measure of a man.
>> >
>> > You want pepsi wheeth dat?
>> >
>> > Chris.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 4:24 AM
>> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Political question for Chris Geankoplis with
>> post
>> > script question open to all...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Michael, this question is directed specifically to Chris as a
>> question!
>> >>
>> >> Chris,
>> >>
>> >> Saturday I met a guy named Nick who was born in Greece, came to USA,
>> went
>> >>
>> > to
>> >
>> >> college in USA and now is USA citizen and works locally.
>> >>
>> >> He was arguing with others that we have 47 million who do not have
>> medical
>> >> insurance and therefore we need national medical insurance just like
>> in
>> >> Greece.
>> >>
>> >> It seems I have heard that discussion recently?  Is this a genetic
>> thing
>> >> with Greeks?
>> >>
>> >> Ed K
>> >> Greenville, SC, USA
>> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p16936760/Super%2BDelegates.gif
>> >> Super+Delegates.gif
>> >>
>> >> Post Script Question:
>> >>
>> >> Recently a newbie, aka Cowie, asked about a map showing locations of
>> >>
>> > Rhodes
>> >
>> >> 22 owners.  It was very interesting to see he got replies and others
>> >>
>> > posted
>> >
>> >> comments about other subjects but no one told him where to find the
>> map.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, Chris there is a Santa Clause, but the current members of this
>> forum
>> >> apparently will let you find it, if you can...
>> >>
>> >> Ed K
>> >> Greenville, SC, USA
>> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p16936760/cartoon.gif cartoon.gif
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