[Rhodes22-list] Political response to answer to question for Chris Geankoplis regarding emergency care

Wed Apr 30 01:14:57 EDT 2008

Always a pleasure to trade ideas, Ed.

Chris G
Oh with a New Chris and This Chris and Chris White it is a reall Chris Mass.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:00 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Political response to answer to question for Chris
Geankoplis regarding emergency care

>
> Chris said, “I went to the emergency room in Greece and was immediately
> seen.”
>
> However, the problem is that is not what is happening in America today.
> Freeloaders and uneducated are using the emergency rooms as their primary
> medical care.  Furthermore, medical doctors often disregard the issue of
> inappropriate use of emergency rooms for whatever reasons which results in
> delays for real emergency care while they treat a sick but not acute
> indigent.
>
> Having worked for many years in support of emergency rooms, so much of
what
> I did was not real medical emergency care that eventually I and many
others
> got disillusioned with what is going on.  Your examples are illustrative
of
> what emergency rooms are for and should be for.  The charges are not fair,
> but that is not my issue in this reply.
>
> This comment was only in reply to Chris and is not intended for others to
> springboard political discussion.
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> “Liberalism was born when Satan told Eve, “Do want you want to do.”  This
is
> contrary to God’s meaning of freedom.  The Bible says God made mankind and
> put him in the Garden of Eden to care for it.  That is what freedom in
> democracy means – opportunity plus responsibility.  Liberalism removes
> responsibility from freedom.  Socialism removes opportunity.”  Charles A.
> Dobson
>
>
>
> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> >
> > Herb,
> >
> > Religion isn't my thing, even though one of my good friends and frequent
> > dinner companions is a pastor.  That said, I have nothing but praise for
> > the
> > thousands of church groups who have contributed time, money, and
material
> > to
> > the Katrina recovery. Their achievements have far surpassed any made by
> > the
> > governments for timeliness and effectiveness.  Now as to stealing
someone
> > else's worldly goods and redistributing it, I plead guilty.  My best
> > friend
> > of 30 plus years  bought a flooded house in Gulfport.  We used his yard
as
> > a
> > spot to park our campers and equipment for over six months.  We also
> > cleaned-up the neighborhood of debris, including several pallets of
lumber
> > that washed ashore from the docks.  My buddy considered it his lumber -
I
> > saw it as 'community' lumber.  Some Mennonites were in the neighborhood
> > patching-up houses and asked if they could have some of our roof
decking.
> > "Sure", I jumped on a skid-steer and delivered it to them.  When my
buddy
> > found out he was major pissed and didn't speak to me for months.  Oh
well.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry Chris, I have to disagree about the "Judeo Christian ethics"
part.
> >> Yes, the Bible says "something about helping the less fortunate".
> >> Unfortunately, it would seem you misunderstood the point. That's for
the
> >> person READING to help others. They do that by giving THEIR worldly
> >> goods, not the worldly goods of others.
> >>
> >> Jesus never told anyone, rich young man or poor old man "Go, take your
> >> neighbors belongings, sell them and give to the poor."
> >>
> >> Chris Geankoplis wrote:
> >> > Ed As the used to say on Saturday Night Live,
> >> >
> >> > Cheesburger, Cheeseburger, Cheesburger, Pepsi.
> >> >
> >> > Look, when I had what appeared to be a thrombosis I went to the
> >> emergency
> >> > room in Greece and was immediatly seen and attentenede by 3 doctors
and
> >> > given blood thinners, no I was not given the private room but they
did
> >> a
> >> > good job and I had to pay $4.50.  My nephew had a series of 3 x rays
> >> and
> >> a
> >> > cast put on (not a lucky trip) and again $4.50.  I would rather have
> >> > something less than the very very best for the few and nothing for
the
> >> many
> >> > but instead, perhaps some "inconvience" and care for all the people.
> >> Sorry
> >> > if you hear Marks and Engles cheering, it isn't, it is the Judeo
> >> Christian
> >> > ethic (you know the one that says something about helping the less
> >> > fortunate).  It does cost us something, but the aqusition and
> >> protection
> >> of
> >> > welth is not the measure of a man.
> >> >
> >> > You want pepsi wheeth dat?
> >> >
> >> > Chris.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> >> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 4:24 AM
> >> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Political question for Chris Geankoplis with
> >> post
> >> > script question open to all...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Michael, this question is directed specifically to Chris as a
> >> question!
> >> >>
> >> >> Chris,
> >> >>
> >> >> Saturday I met a guy named Nick who was born in Greece, came to USA,
> >> went
> >> >>
> >> > to
> >> >
> >> >> college in USA and now is USA citizen and works locally.
> >> >>
> >> >> He was arguing with others that we have 47 million who do not have
> >> medical
> >> >> insurance and therefore we need national medical insurance just like
> >> in
> >> >> Greece.
> >> >>
> >> >> It seems I have heard that discussion recently?  Is this a genetic
> >> thing
> >> >> with Greeks?
> >> >>
> >> >> Ed K
> >> >> Greenville, SC, USA
> >> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p16936760/Super%2BDelegates.gif
> >> >> Super+Delegates.gif
> >> >>
> >> >> Post Script Question:
> >> >>
> >> >> Recently a newbie, aka Cowie, asked about a map showing locations of
> >> >>
> >> > Rhodes
> >> >
> >> >> 22 owners.  It was very interesting to see he got replies and others
> >> >>
> >> > posted
> >> >
> >> >> comments about other subjects but no one told him where to find the
> >> map.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, Chris there is a Santa Clause, but the current members of this
> >> forum
> >> >> apparently will let you find it, if you can...
> >> >>
> >> >> Ed K
> >> >> Greenville, SC, USA
> >> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p16936760/cartoon.gif cartoon.gif
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