[Rhodes22-list] Politics-Palin-Twain

Fri Dec 5 17:40:40 EST 2008

Ben,

Point taken.  Whether you agree with the reasons for starting the
second invasion (most of the Congress did at the time) it would have
been a disaster for the Iraqi's and for our national psyche (think
Vietnam) to have left without finishing the job.  I find it curious
that the New York Times and their leftist readership could advocate
leaving Iraq in a civil war and accept 2 million deaths (their number)
and yet cry for intervention in Darfur.  Maybe it was just a Bush 43
bashing thing.  Anyway, I'm glad the following photos were made
possible by our staying the course.

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=99999999&g2_itemId=6500

Brad

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com> wrote:
>
>
> Folks;
>
> With respect to Arthur's "point of order" I think the problem may be that
> those of us who choose to mostly post through the Nabble site (it's easier
> to post pics and pieces from other works) get put into a que or thread and
> once the original subject line is set it doesn't matter if folks change it
> along the way; it all stays together. The Rhodes22.org site doesn't do that
> so subject lines can get all screwed up.  I'll try to remember that as it is
> annoying for people who don't want to be subjected to the political stuff .
>
> Brad, it isn't that I don't take your point about the actual dates various
> conflicts began and ended; in fact I agree with you, especially about the
> sorry state of the education of our "yoots", as we say in Joisey.But by your
> definition WWII is still going on (we're still in Germany and Japan). I
> think you know that for all practical and "public opinion" purposes the Iraq
> War that Americans care about started when we started bombing leading up to
> the invasion after 9/11 and continues as long as we take casualties in any
> significant numbers. If we apply that same standard to WWII that conflict
> did begin at Pearl Harbor and end with The Nagasaki blast. (By the way I
> have stood under the air space where that bomb burst at the site where it
> was said nothing would ever grow again, and the park there is spectacular).
>
> This is probably way too much about way too obscure a point but the Iraq war
> has dragged on way longer than necessary (I would have left town the day
> after the last to die of Uday, Qusay and Saddam bit the dust), and a damned
> site longer than any reasonable comparable period for WWII.
>
> Ben C.
>
>
> Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>
>> Why is the sender and the responds on this message not labeling
>> 'Political' first on the subject line - Tootle, especially.  This is a
>> mandatory courtesy in our protocol, isn't it, John Lock.
>> Art
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>Sent: Dec 4, 2008 12:22 PM
>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  bill?
>>>
>>>
>>>If satire is now wrong what are those late night tv shows going to do?
>>>
>>>Maybe we should forward that cartoon to the 'Office of President Elect'?
>>>
>>>Ed K
>>>attachment:
>>>http://www.nabble.com/file/p20838153/vouchers.gif vouchers.gif
>>>
>>>
>>>Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Robert,
>>>>
>>>> Oh BULLSHIT!  This is going to be a long four years if you join the
>>>> ranks of the PC police.  Clarance Thomas and Condi Rice are fair game
>>>> but The One isn't?  If I'm a bigot then I'm an equal opportunity
>>>> bigot!  Let me finish the sim this afternoon and do some research on
>>>> prudish Marines from Maine to make fun of.
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Robert Skinner
>>>> <Robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
>>>>> Obama is president-elect, not a pimp.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad - I'm sure that you don't want to
>>>>> come off as a bigot - I have seen no
>>>>> evidence of that to date - but this is
>>>>> uncomfortably close to the line between
>>>>> humor and bad taste.
>>>>>
>>>>> /Robert, ME
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You gotta admit, history is being made.  Here's a review of
>>>>>> Presidential
>>>>>> limos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.jibjab.com/view/258672
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like to think I'm in the "what's best for my country" camp, and
>>>>>>> against the hypocrisy camp.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George Bush got into office by saying one thing and doing another.  I
>>>>>>> opposed that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obama got into office the same way.  I oppose that, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both men are inexperienced, relying on the knowledge of those
>>>>>>> surrounding them.  It's a bad formula.  The other people in the room
>>>>>>> won't agree on many things.  The least experienced person winds up
>>>>>>> making the decision on a "gut feel".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both Bush and Obama were selected by political machines as the
>>>>>>> electable
>>>>>>> face of unelectable policies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It didn't work well for the Republicans.  It's not going to work well
>>>>>>> for the Democrats, either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As you well know, we've got really really big problems.  Things will
>>>>>>> probably never go back to where they were.  Our country's position is
>>>>>>> likely to deteriorate, along with the position of most individuals.
>>>>>>> There are smarter moves, and dumber moves.  Moves that will leave us
>>>>>>> better off, and moves that will leave us worse off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Democrats are settling scores--they are not working for the
>>>>>>> common
>>>>>>> good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As you know, I am voting against my pocketbook.  The Democrat's
>>>>>>> policies
>>>>>>> benefit me.  If I lose, I win.  But, at least I can live with myself,
>>>>>>> having tried to work for what I believe is right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe if enough people speak up early enough we can stop throwing our
>>>>>>> money into a bottomless pit, and start actually working our way out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>
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