[Rhodes22-list] Politics-Palin-Twain

Sun Dec 14 10:25:11 EST 2008

Brad

The NYT has repeatedly published editorials calling for the troops to remain
until Iraq is stable.

Andrew
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ben,
>
> Point taken.  Whether you agree with the reasons for starting the
> second invasion (most of the Congress did at the time) it would have
> been a disaster for the Iraqi's and for our national psyche (think
> Vietnam) to have left without finishing the job.  I find it curious
> that the New York Times and their leftist readership could advocate
> leaving Iraq in a civil war and accept 2 million deaths (their number)
> and yet cry for intervention in Darfur.  Maybe it was just a Bush 43
> bashing thing.  Anyway, I'm glad the following photos were made
> possible by our staying the course.
>
>
> http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=99999999&g2_itemId=6500
>
> Brad
>
> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Folks;
> >
> > With respect to Arthur's "point of order" I think the problem may be that
> > those of us who choose to mostly post through the Nabble site (it's
> easier
> > to post pics and pieces from other works) get put into a que or thread
> and
> > once the original subject line is set it doesn't matter if folks change
> it
> > along the way; it all stays together. The Rhodes22.org site doesn't do
> that
> > so subject lines can get all screwed up.  I'll try to remember that as it
> is
> > annoying for people who don't want to be subjected to the political stuff
> .
> >
> > Brad, it isn't that I don't take your point about the actual dates
> various
> > conflicts began and ended; in fact I agree with you, especially about the
> > sorry state of the education of our "yoots", as we say in Joisey.But by
> your
> > definition WWII is still going on (we're still in Germany and Japan). I
> > think you know that for all practical and "public opinion" purposes the
> Iraq
> > War that Americans care about started when we started bombing leading up
> to
> > the invasion after 9/11 and continues as long as we take casualties in
> any
> > significant numbers. If we apply that same standard to WWII that conflict
> > did begin at Pearl Harbor and end with The Nagasaki blast. (By the way I
> > have stood under the air space where that bomb burst at the site where it
> > was said nothing would ever grow again, and the park there is
> spectacular).
> >
> > This is probably way too much about way too obscure a point but the Iraq
> war
> > has dragged on way longer than necessary (I would have left town the day
> > after the last to die of Uday, Qusay and Saddam bit the dust), and a
> damned
> > site longer than any reasonable comparable period for WWII.
> >
> > Ben C.
> >
> >
> > Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
> >>
> >> Why is the sender and the responds on this message not labeling
> >> 'Political' first on the subject line - Tootle, especially.  This is a
> >> mandatory courtesy in our protocol, isn't it, John Lock.
> >> Art
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
> >>>Sent: Dec 4, 2008 12:22 PM
> >>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  bill?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>If satire is now wrong what are those late night tv shows going to do?
> >>>
> >>>Maybe we should forward that cartoon to the 'Office of President Elect'?
> >>>
> >>>Ed K
> >>>attachment:
> >>>http://www.nabble.com/file/p20838153/vouchers.gif vouchers.gif
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Robert,
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh BULLSHIT!  This is going to be a long four years if you join the
> >>>> ranks of the PC police.  Clarance Thomas and Condi Rice are fair game
> >>>> but The One isn't?  If I'm a bigot then I'm an equal opportunity
> >>>> bigot!  Let me finish the sim this afternoon and do some research on
> >>>> prudish Marines from Maine to make fun of.
> >>>>
> >>>> Brad
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Robert Skinner
> >>>> <Robert at squirrelhaven.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Obama is president-elect, not a pimp.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brad - I'm sure that you don't want to
> >>>>> come off as a bigot - I have seen no
> >>>>> evidence of that to date - but this is
> >>>>> uncomfortably close to the line between
> >>>>> humor and bad taste.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /Robert, ME
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
> >>>>>> Bill,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You gotta admit, history is being made.  Here's a review of
> >>>>>> Presidential
> >>>>>> limos.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.jibjab.com/view/258672
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Brad
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Michael,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I like to think I'm in the "what's best for my country" camp, and
> >>>>>>> against the hypocrisy camp.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> George Bush got into office by saying one thing and doing another.
>  I
> >>>>>>> opposed that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Obama got into office the same way.  I oppose that, too.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Both men are inexperienced, relying on the knowledge of those
> >>>>>>> surrounding them.  It's a bad formula.  The other people in the
> room
> >>>>>>> won't agree on many things.  The least experienced person winds up
> >>>>>>> making the decision on a "gut feel".
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Both Bush and Obama were selected by political machines as the
> >>>>>>> electable
> >>>>>>> face of unelectable policies.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It didn't work well for the Republicans.  It's not going to work
> well
> >>>>>>> for the Democrats, either.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As you well know, we've got really really big problems.  Things
> will
> >>>>>>> probably never go back to where they were.  Our country's position
> is
> >>>>>>> likely to deteriorate, along with the position of most individuals.
> >>>>>>> There are smarter moves, and dumber moves.  Moves that will leave
> us
> >>>>>>> better off, and moves that will leave us worse off.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The Democrats are settling scores--they are not working for the
> >>>>>>> common
> >>>>>>> good.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As you know, I am voting against my pocketbook.  The Democrat's
> >>>>>>> policies
> >>>>>>> benefit me.  If I lose, I win.  But, at least I can live with
> myself,
> >>>>>>> having tried to work for what I believe is right.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Maybe if enough people speak up early enough we can stop throwing
> our
> >>>>>>> money into a bottomless pit, and start actually working our way
> out.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Bill Effros
> >>>>
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