[Rhodes22-list] Politics: Brad -- What Does He Mean?

Mon Dec 15 11:58:12 EST 2008

I have to admit, I have mixed feelings about all of this.

When I was in high school, and watched the Nixon fiasco, I was basically 
non-political. In a classroom assignment in grade school (in '68), I had 
"picked Nixon" to win, but that was just because my friends had all 
picked Humphry, and I didn't care about Democrats since the one Catholic 
I supported had been killed. (Keep in mind, I was in the 6th grade) In 
'72, being from a military family, I supported Nixon over McGovern. That 
was the extent of my loyalty to Nixon.

I was bothered to see our country go through what we did, and grew 
sadder as the situation worsened. At church summer camp, the camp 
director (who was my surrogate father for many of my growing years), 
cautioned the kids not to cheer when we watched what we knew was going 
to be his televised resignation speech. I thought then why would anyone 
cheer?

That's the way I feel now. I feel bothered by what we're going through, 
and anticipated I'm going to be similarly saddened, but no way would I 
cheer.

When Clinton went through his political troubles, I remember thinking 
with a certain smugness "You know, when you pick up a snake, and you 
know it's a snake, you can't complain when it bites you". We, as a 
nation, picked Clinton, and we should have know what he was when we 
picked him up (we were certainly told many times).

That's also the way I feel now. It's not cheering, but it is a certain 
smugness that we, as a nation, should have known what we were getting, 
and now we're about to starting mowin what we were sowin.

And I still feel sad.

And I still believe we are the most resilient people in the world. We 
have a system that will enable us to come back from this stronger than 
we were before. That system will work, no matter what road this little 
trip takes.

Brad Haslett wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Someone flipped the light switch and the cockroaches are running (and talking) -
>
> http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1330610,CST-NWS-impeachside14.article
>
> I'm thinking Bambi should go to Home Depot or Lowes for a cabinet -
>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aL0GGUluJeT8&refer=worldwide
>
> Elle thinks we're wishing ill will for the incoming President - quite
> the contrary is the truth.  I haven't prayed in a long time but I'm
> thinking about saying a prayer for President Biden.
>
> "Twisting in the wind?"  Yeah, is Vegas taking bets yet on when The
> One is going to quit smoking?
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>   
>> Nope.
>>
>> Despite MSM repeated reports that O is not implicated, Fitz has released
>> all sorts of information showing clearly that he is implicated, that the
>> FBI was taping and recording him, and that they are going after him.
>>
>> Most people don't seem to realize there is another Rezko trial coming
>> with O in the middle of it unless Rezko gives up Obama before the start
>> of the trial.
>>
>> The first trial centered on Blago, and Obama was just a peripheral
>> player.  The second trial is centered around Obama, and the billion
>> dollars worth of earmarks sent back home to people who took him from a
>> $56,000 a year part-time state senator on the take, to President of the
>> United States.
>>
>> Rezko sent out smoke signals from jail that if he didn't get help, he
>> would talk.  But nobody could help him.  Now Blago is doing the same.
>> Madigan offered him the insanity defense, but if he's been insane for
>> all these years, why was Obama endorsing him less than 2 years ago?
>>
>> I think Fitz will follow the vote rigging this time around.  The
>> Democrats were thanking Blago less than a year ago for the ability of
>> his organization to rig the Iowa Caucuses, the Illinois Primary, the
>> Texas Caucuses, and big city voting in minority districts.  What do they
>> call that?  Oh, yeah, "Community Organizing".
>>
>> It's just too blatant to ignore, and the Secretary of State designate
>> documented it at great detail along with literally thousands of
>> complainants.  They pulled it all off the Internet, but lots of people
>> have copies of the complaints, and they will all show up when Fitz needs
>> them.
>>
>> It's just a matter of time.  It's like watching Nixon "twisting slowly,
>> slowly in the wind".  (I know the quote wasn't about Nixon, but that's
>> what those of us on the left thought as we watched.)
>>
>> Oh, and by the way, elle, it doesn't matter how anyone "roots" -- the
>> facts are still the facts, and no amount of "magical thinking" is going
>> to change the outcome.
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>     
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> Interesting twist here from the WSJ -
>>>
>>> http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/12/14/the-real-story-behind-the-rushed-blagojevich-bust-how-the-feds-are-frustrated-by-losing-maybe-half-of-their-case/
>>>
>>> Was the Tribune protecting someone or just trying to sell more
>>> newspapers as a bankrupt company?
>>>
>>> One theory I have to answer your question is this; this kind of thing
>>> was so commonplace that no one gave a second thought to a wiretap.
>>> Stupid?  Yes, but arrogance breeds stupidity.  Blago is still in the
>>> defiance mode and may remain so for weeks.  The AG's attempt to
>>> silence him as quickly as possible looks pretty amateurish.  Blago is
>>> holding an entire handful of Big O trump cards (his wife got a
>>> commission on the O house deal for goodness sakes) and he'll deal them
>>> out carefully.  I'm not even sure that Fitz wants O but he'll have no
>>> choice in the matter - the bad deeds have already been done and Blago
>>> isn't going to take a fall without a tough fight. Protecting the F'ing
>>> President Elect (as he would call him) isn't real high on his list of
>>> priorities.
>>>
>>> Have you considered that you and I could be completely wrong.  It may
>>> not be likely, but it is possible that 53% of the American voters
>>> rescued the virgin from the whorehouse just in time?
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Brad,
>>>>
>>>> What do you suppose Blago means when his spokesman says ""The governor
>>>> has indicated in the past there is more to this story that he's wanting
>>>> to tell at an appropriate time."
>>>>
>>>> How do you cut a deal with this guy when you know the FBI is listening
>>>> in and watching everything he hears or sees?
>>>>
>>>> The only deals Fitzgerald will cut are for Daley and Obama.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros
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