[Rhodes22-list] Politics: Brad -- What Does He Mean?

Mon Dec 15 12:13:42 EST 2008

Herb,

Thank you for those thoughts following "the reasonable man" theory.  I
take very little delight witnessing what is about to unfold.  Yes, I
am a partisan, but more important than that - I am a responsible
citizen. We will survive this as a nation but it won't be pretty and
it WILL be painful.

I'm leaving in a few minutes to go teach a class.  That is how we will
survive as a nation; put one foot in front of the other and keep
moving forward.

We've faced bigger hurdles.

Brad

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
> I have to admit, I have mixed feelings about all of this.
>
> When I was in high school, and watched the Nixon fiasco, I was basically
> non-political. In a classroom assignment in grade school (in '68), I had
> "picked Nixon" to win, but that was just because my friends had all
> picked Humphry, and I didn't care about Democrats since the one Catholic
> I supported had been killed. (Keep in mind, I was in the 6th grade) In
> '72, being from a military family, I supported Nixon over McGovern. That
> was the extent of my loyalty to Nixon.
>
> I was bothered to see our country go through what we did, and grew
> sadder as the situation worsened. At church summer camp, the camp
> director (who was my surrogate father for many of my growing years),
> cautioned the kids not to cheer when we watched what we knew was going
> to be his televised resignation speech. I thought then why would anyone
> cheer?
>
> That's the way I feel now. I feel bothered by what we're going through,
> and anticipated I'm going to be similarly saddened, but no way would I
> cheer.
>
> When Clinton went through his political troubles, I remember thinking
> with a certain smugness "You know, when you pick up a snake, and you
> know it's a snake, you can't complain when it bites you". We, as a
> nation, picked Clinton, and we should have know what he was when we
> picked him up (we were certainly told many times).
>
> That's also the way I feel now. It's not cheering, but it is a certain
> smugness that we, as a nation, should have known what we were getting,
> and now we're about to starting mowin what we were sowin.
>
> And I still feel sad.
>
> And I still believe we are the most resilient people in the world. We
> have a system that will enable us to come back from this stronger than
> we were before. That system will work, no matter what road this little
> trip takes.
>
>
> Brad Haslett wrote:
>> Bill,
>>
>> Someone flipped the light switch and the cockroaches are running (and talking) -
>>
>> http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1330610,CST-NWS-impeachside14.article
>>
>> I'm thinking Bambi should go to Home Depot or Lowes for a cabinet -
>>
>> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aL0GGUluJeT8&refer=worldwide
>>
>> Elle thinks we're wishing ill will for the incoming President - quite
>> the contrary is the truth.  I haven't prayed in a long time but I'm
>> thinking about saying a prayer for President Biden.
>>
>> "Twisting in the wind?"  Yeah, is Vegas taking bets yet on when The
>> One is going to quit smoking?
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> Despite MSM repeated reports that O is not implicated, Fitz has released
>>> all sorts of information showing clearly that he is implicated, that the
>>> FBI was taping and recording him, and that they are going after him.
>>>
>>> Most people don't seem to realize there is another Rezko trial coming
>>> with O in the middle of it unless Rezko gives up Obama before the start
>>> of the trial.
>>>
>>> The first trial centered on Blago, and Obama was just a peripheral
>>> player.  The second trial is centered around Obama, and the billion
>>> dollars worth of earmarks sent back home to people who took him from a
>>> $56,000 a year part-time state senator on the take, to President of the
>>> United States.
>>>
>>> Rezko sent out smoke signals from jail that if he didn't get help, he
>>> would talk.  But nobody could help him.  Now Blago is doing the same.
>>> Madigan offered him the insanity defense, but if he's been insane for
>>> all these years, why was Obama endorsing him less than 2 years ago?
>>>
>>> I think Fitz will follow the vote rigging this time around.  The
>>> Democrats were thanking Blago less than a year ago for the ability of
>>> his organization to rig the Iowa Caucuses, the Illinois Primary, the
>>> Texas Caucuses, and big city voting in minority districts.  What do they
>>> call that?  Oh, yeah, "Community Organizing".
>>>
>>> It's just too blatant to ignore, and the Secretary of State designate
>>> documented it at great detail along with literally thousands of
>>> complainants.  They pulled it all off the Internet, but lots of people
>>> have copies of the complaints, and they will all show up when Fitz needs
>>> them.
>>>
>>> It's just a matter of time.  It's like watching Nixon "twisting slowly,
>>> slowly in the wind".  (I know the quote wasn't about Nixon, but that's
>>> what those of us on the left thought as we watched.)
>>>
>>> Oh, and by the way, elle, it doesn't matter how anyone "roots" -- the
>>> facts are still the facts, and no amount of "magical thinking" is going
>>> to change the outcome.
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill,
>>>>
>>>> Interesting twist here from the WSJ -
>>>>
>>>> http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/12/14/the-real-story-behind-the-rushed-blagojevich-bust-how-the-feds-are-frustrated-by-losing-maybe-half-of-their-case/
>>>>
>>>> Was the Tribune protecting someone or just trying to sell more
>>>> newspapers as a bankrupt company?
>>>>
>>>> One theory I have to answer your question is this; this kind of thing
>>>> was so commonplace that no one gave a second thought to a wiretap.
>>>> Stupid?  Yes, but arrogance breeds stupidity.  Blago is still in the
>>>> defiance mode and may remain so for weeks.  The AG's attempt to
>>>> silence him as quickly as possible looks pretty amateurish.  Blago is
>>>> holding an entire handful of Big O trump cards (his wife got a
>>>> commission on the O house deal for goodness sakes) and he'll deal them
>>>> out carefully.  I'm not even sure that Fitz wants O but he'll have no
>>>> choice in the matter - the bad deeds have already been done and Blago
>>>> isn't going to take a fall without a tough fight. Protecting the F'ing
>>>> President Elect (as he would call him) isn't real high on his list of
>>>> priorities.
>>>>
>>>> Have you considered that you and I could be completely wrong.  It may
>>>> not be likely, but it is possible that 53% of the American voters
>>>> rescued the virgin from the whorehouse just in time?
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Brad,
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you suppose Blago means when his spokesman says ""The governor
>>>>> has indicated in the past there is more to this story that he's wanting
>>>>> to tell at an appropriate time."
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you cut a deal with this guy when you know the FBI is listening
>>>>> in and watching everything he hears or sees?
>>>>>
>>>>> The only deals Fitzgerald will cut are for Daley and Obama.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Effros
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