[Rhodes22-list] Political- Caroline's disappointing day.
Ben Cittadino
bcittadino at dcs-law.com
Thu Dec 18 10:39:14 EST 2008
Herb;
I know Brad put you in charge of the world for the day, but don't let it go
to your head.
My point about a Couric interview was not that Couric represents any kind of
incisive or probing questioner, but rather that Ms. Palin did such a very
poor job of handling HER interview with Ms. Couric.
I seem to recall your saying you never saw it. Too bad. Palin came across
like a MORON. Nobody, and I mean nobody, disagrees with that.
Look, you and Brad and others admire and respect Palin. You have made it
clear you think she'd be a competent President. Good for you.
I have looked into her eyes and seen the vacant stare of of a person I
wouldn't trust to mind my dog (and my dog is dead). We disagree. It happens.
Let's not trod old ground. Haven't we had this discussion already? Isn't
there something new we can argue about?
Ben C.
hparsons wrote:
>
> Ahhhhh, I finally think I understand. It would seem you base your views
> of "moronic" levels on interviews with fluffy media former stars. If
> that's the baseline, I can probably rule for you. It's easy to hit a
> home run when you're lobbed a slow pitch. Brushbacks make it a little
> harder to hold your composure.
>
> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>> Herb;
>>
>> I think I'll reserve judgment on the "moron" issue until after Caroline's
>> Katie Couric interview.
>>
>> Ben C.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> hparsons wrote:
>>
>>> Point of order.
>>>
>>> I'm still waiting on a ruling on the "moron" issue.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>>
>>>> So therefor, there being no voices raised in support of Ms. Kennedy's
>>>> candidacy, and upon unanimous consent of the body, be it hereby
>>>> resolved
>>>> that Ms. Kennedy should not be endorsed for the office of US Senator
>>>> from
>>>> New York. Next case.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks boys,
>>>>
>>>> Ben C.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Herb,
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the big fuss in Illinois about? Their Senate seat has been
>>>>> unused for four years. Why the big hurry?
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's the kicker Brad, she's not going to be running against anyone.
>>>>>> There won't be an election (I think). I'm almost positive that
>>>>>> filling
>>>>>> Hillary's vacancy is by appointment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stop and think about THAT one. How much of a "deal" did New Yorkers
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> when they voted for Hillary this time around? She spent the first
>>>>>> half
>>>>>> of her term campaigning for another job, then is going to resign to
>>>>>> take
>>>>>> a DIFFERENT "other job".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ben,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Who the heck is advising her?" Good question, maybe that idiot
>>>>>>> neo-Republican John McCain? I'd say Ms. Kennedy has the exact number
>>>>>>> of political and business successes to point to in her career as the
>>>>>>> President-Elect, ie, ZERO - without the long string of corrupt
>>>>>>> colleagues and failed leadership in quasi-public ventures. Why the
>>>>>>> need to compare her to Sarah Palin? Does she have a record of
>>>>>>> standing up to corruption? Palin has a long record of
>>>>>>> accomplishments. If Ms. Kennedy has 1/10 of that record then I'd
>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>> she's more than qualified. Who is she running against? What are
>>>>>>> their qualifications? Since when did the NYTimes give a shit about
>>>>>>> competence? The NYTimes isn't worth wrapping dead fish in Rahm
>>>>>>> Emmanuel style - it gives dead fish a bad image and makes them smell
>>>>>>> bad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Ben Cittadino
>>>>>>> <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Folks;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the article posted below a reporter is said to have asked Ms.
>>>>>>>> Kennedy
>>>>>>>> what she would say about her qualifications for the job of US
>>>>>>>> Senator
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> NY. Surely she knew the question would come, and surely she must
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> thought about her answer. It is reported that "an aide" stopped her
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> responding. What's up with that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was 14 years old when her father was killed, and a sophomore in
>>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>>> school. I was just getting interested in politics and government. I
>>>>>>>> know now
>>>>>>>> he was deeply flawed, but we loved him and were terribly affected
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>> death. I wanted so much for her to do well, but I must say this is
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> auspicious beginning.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Somebody joked that this was just a strategy to keep her cousin
>>>>>>>> Kerry's
>>>>>>>> ex-husband Andrew Cuomo from getting the job. I dimissed it, but
>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>> I'm not
>>>>>>>> so sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do you not answer reporters who ask the obvious question in
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> circumstance? Who the heck is advising her? What a letdown.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NYTimes Online 12/17/08
>>>>>>>> In Appearance Upstate, Kennedy Says Little
>>>>>>>> By JEREMY W. PETERS and NICHOLAS CONFESSORE
>>>>>>>> SYRACUSE — In a carefully controlled strategy reminiscent of the
>>>>>>>> vice-presidential hopeful Sarah Palin, aides to Caroline Kennedy
>>>>>>>> interrupted
>>>>>>>> her on Wednesday and whisked her away when she was asked what her
>>>>>>>> qualifications are to be a United States senator.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In her first public appearance since letting it be known that wants
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> succeed Hillary Rodham Clinton, Ms. Kennedy emerged from a
>>>>>>>> closed-door
>>>>>>>> meeting with Matthew J. Driscoll, the mayor of Syracuse, where
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> dozen
>>>>>>>> reporters were waiting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> She offered a 30-second statement saying that she would respect the
>>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>> undertaken by Gov. David A. Paterson to fill the vacancy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then, as reporters asked why Ms. Kennedy was seeking the Senate
>>>>>>>> seat
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> whether she was ready, she did not answer, then walked away,
>>>>>>>> heading
>>>>>>>> toward
>>>>>>>> a waiting black sport-utility vehicle.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When one reporter asked what she would tell New Yorkers who
>>>>>>>> question
>>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>> she has the qualifications for the job, Ms. Kennedy, 51, started to
>>>>>>>> respond.
>>>>>>>> But then an aide stopped her from saying more, and led her to the
>>>>>>>> waiting
>>>>>>>> vehicle.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Hopefully I can come back and answer all those questions," she
>>>>>>>> called
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> as she got into the S.U.V.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was the first stop in an orchestrated tour of upstate New York.
>>>>>>>> Ms.
>>>>>>>> Kennedy has plans to visit with officials in Rochester and,
>>>>>>>> possibly,
>>>>>>>> Buffalo, a first stab at getting skeptical upstate voters used to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>> of being represented in Washington by yet another down-stater.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The area has already expressed wariness of her, with some officials
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> newspapers questioning her abilities.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The tour has been kept somewhat secretive, reflecting, in part, the
>>>>>>>> delicacy
>>>>>>>> of the situation. No schedule was given, though details percolated
>>>>>>>> rapidly
>>>>>>>> through political circles in New York. An aide accompanying her
>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>> she was
>>>>>>>> headed to Rochester after Syracuse, but declined to say where.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Technically, there is no seat open, since the current holder,
>>>>>>>> Senator
>>>>>>>> Clinton, has not yet been confirmed to be secretary of state. And
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> be no true campaign, since there is no true election: the only vote
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> counts if that of Governor Paterson.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In her brief statement, Ms. Kennedy said: "As some of you may have
>>>>>>>> heard, I
>>>>>>>> told Governor Paterson I'd be honored to be considered for the
>>>>>>>> position
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> United States senator. There's a lot of good people in this
>>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> the governor is considering. He's laid out a process and I'm proud
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> part of that process."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As the S.U.V. pulled out of downtown Syracuse, she gave a wave and
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> smile
>>>>>>>> to the disappointed reporters who had gathered.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ben C.
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