[Rhodes22-list] Deregulation and Da List

Ben Cittadino bcittadino at dcs-law.com
Tue Dec 30 11:41:41 EST 2008


Ben;

Thanks for the statistical breakdown. I must say it hadn't occurred to me
that I was the fourth or fifth most frequent poster. 

I have also reviewed the posts since Rummy's resignation, especially those
by Bill, Herb and Brad. I was, quite frankly, shocked at Herb's remarks to
Elle, and dissappointed that Bill and Brad were so completely unrepentant. I
believe I have a solution.

If I leave the list it does two things; one, it solves a chunk of the
"domination" problem with the reduction in volume; and two, it leaves Bill,
Herb and Brad with nothing to do but agree with each other, which is not as
much fun as having a debate with someone you disagree with.

So, I'm quitting altogether. There are other ways to get sailing advice.
Besides, if I ever have a sailing question, Tootle would just tell me "check
the archives" anyway. (joke)

Hope it helps.

Ben C.



benonvelvetelvis wrote:
> 
> Just for kicks, I did a "group by sender" on my inbox for this list.  I
> don't think I've deleted anything since August, and I have nothing from
> before that.  I did a quick scroll to see how many messages we all send.
> 
> Herb was just over 900 messages.
> Brad was somewhere in the 700s.
> Elle was next (unless I missed someone) in the mid-300s.
> Ben C. was in the 200s.
> I either forgot to look for Ed, or forgot how many messages he had.
> Everyone else that I think of as a frequent poster was around 200 or less.
> 
> 
> This was a real quick exercise, because my main objective was to handicap
> upcoming college bowl games, so I'm sure there's someone I missed, but I
> think the reason we might be losing people is not because of the contents
> of
> the posts, it's that the conversation is being dominated.  
> 
> By the way, happy holidays to everyone.  I wish you all the best for 09.
> 
> 
> Ben S.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Herb Parsons
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 17:20
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Deregulation and Da List
> 
> Elle,
> 
> I notice that you, and a few others, when actually confronted, don't 
> ante up.
> 
> What did I do to "throw water on the others"? I posted a reasoned 
> response to a bunch of crap about racism. They don't like it. Too bad. 
> You seem to jump in there anytime someone disagrees with this same sort 
> of nonsense.
> 
> I'm opinionated. I don't doubt it.
> I stand by my views, except when I find their wrong for me. Then I 
> change them.
> 
> However, I don't resort to the silly name calling until it's thrown at 
> me first
> 
> And, I'm not saying for an instant that I don't "cause a problem". 
> However, in this case I don't see where I did.
> 
> Bill posted the link. I posted a reasoned response. You apparently, 
> don't like that I did so. Too bad.
> 
> 
> elle wrote:
>> Ah, Herb,
>> Another reasoned and thoughtful response from you. You have such a way
> with words that shows your nature. You make me laugh...I often have that
> reaction to .......(don't want to call you names...so fill in your own,
> folks.)
>>
>> And you never cause a problem...it's always the other guy.
>>
>> Ya wanna mix it up?
>>
>> I taught second grade..I  can handle you...But don't care to exert the
> effort.
>>
>> Read up to Michael's response a few replies above this one. Take it to
> heart...everyone.
>>
>> elle..
>>
>> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>>
>> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 12/29/08, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Deregulation and Da List
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 1:50 PM
>>> Elle,
>>>
>>> You know what? Kiss off. I did nothing to "throw
>>> water" on this. Some 
>>> ass on here (and yes, it was ass-like behavior, if you
>>> don't like it, 
>>> don't play) pulled his favorite "you're the
>>> bad guy" routine by bringing 
>>> up the racism tag.
>>>
>>> I've seen a lot of BS on here the past few days,
>>> started to spout off, 
>>> and then thought "nah, why bother". However, if
>>> someone DOES choose to 
>>> "bother", they should expect a response.
>>> That's what "discussions" are 
>>> about.
>>>
>>> For those of you that simply want a podium to espouse your
>>> views 
>>> unchallenged, I submit you're in the wrong playground.
>>>
>>> I hate the thought of Rummy leaving. But he's a big
>>> boy, I suspect he 
>>> knows exactly what he's doing by now. (I also suspect
>>> he's kinda feeling 
>>> a little embarrassed at over-reacting, I know I would).
>>>
>>>
>>> elle wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Well, SH*T.
>>>>
>>>> Can't a girl have some fun (& feed her heart
>>>>       
>>> & soul)  w/out the playground erupting? 
>>>     
>>>> Everybody..back in the pool & Herb, Bill & Ed,
>>>>       
>>> stop throwing water in everyone's faces.
>>>     
>>>> And, please...let me have some fun (;^) before I have
>>>>       
>>> to come back to earth...
>>>     
>>>> Love ya all...please everyone stay around....
>>>>
>>>> elle
>>>>
>>>> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
>>>>       
>>> can adjust our sails.
>>>     
>>>> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"
>>>>       
>>>   (Lady in Red)
>>>     
>>>> --- On Mon, 12/29/08, John Lock
>>>>       
>>> <jlock at relevantarts.com> wrote:
>>>     
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Deregulation and Da
>>>>>         
>>> List
>>>     
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>>         
>>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, "Robert
>>> Skinner" <Robert at SquirrelHaven.com>
>>>     
>>>>> Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 12:54 PM
>>>>> At 11:31 AM 12/29/2008 -0500, Robert Skinner
>>>>>         
>>> wrote:
>>>     
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>> John Lock and MJM,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As prime movers in setting up and maintaining
>>>>>> this list, you enjoy positions of authority
>>>>>> and respect.
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>> Doubtful, but thanks for the plug.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to see you go, but you should know how this
>>>>>         
>>> list
>>>     
>>>>> works by 
>>>>> now.  Most of the traffic is generated by a
>>>>>         
>>> relative few 
>>>     
>>>>> self-important, dick-waving, gas bags and has
>>>>>         
>>> nothing to do
>>>     
>>>>> with the 
>>>>> Rhodes 22 or sailing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, we could start banning people and enforcing
>>>>>         
>>> content
>>>     
>>>>> rules, but 
>>>>> I (for one) don't want to be in THAT hot seat.
>>>>>         
>>>  Mail
>>>     
>>>>> filters and the 
>>>>> delete key should be enough to manage the problem.
>>>>>         
>>>  Nobody
>>>     
>>>>> forces 
>>>>> anyone to read the crap and the tools for
>>>>>         
>>> bypassing it are 
>>>     
>>>>> simple.  If you choose to support a position or
>>>>>         
>>> offer an
>>>     
>>>>> opinion, you 
>>>>> KNOW what will happen!  It's not a surprise
>>>>>         
>>> any more!
>>>     
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>
>>>>> John Lock
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
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