[Rhodes22-list] Deregulation and Da List

[TN Rhodey]

Herb,

The number speaks for it self. I have not and am not calling you any names.
It means you post the most. Relax and have a Happy New Year.

Fairest Winds, Wally

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>wrote:

> Sorry Ben, but while your information may be correct, I believe your
> conclusion is wrong. No one can "dominate" the list. This is not like a
> conversation where only one person at a time can talk. If a person has
> something to say, they can say no matter who else is "talking". The
> complaints I've heard most loudly are that the messages have become
> caustic (or toxic, or whatever other pejorative term one may want to
> use). I have a suggestion for folks, it's a pretty old one. Treat others
> the way you want to be treated. Call me a hick, racist, fool, or
> whatever (in whatever couched terms or overt accusations you choose),
> and I think you'll see me react. Call my beliefs, whether they my
> religious beliefs, political beliefs, or just view of life in genera -
> ignorant, stupid, racist, unconsidered, - again, whatever pejorative
> term you decide to use, and you may find me reacting.
>
> And, for those of you that believe you're somehow above it all because
> you hide your insults carefully, sorry, it doesn't fly. An insult is an
> insult, no matter how nicely one says it. Some of you that do it the
> "cutest" are the worst, because you're doing it deliberately.
>
> OK, rant off.
>
>
> ben wrote:
> > Just for kicks, I did a "group by sender" on my inbox for this list.  I
> > don't think I've deleted anything since August, and I have nothing from
> > before that.  I did a quick scroll to see how many messages we all send.
> >
> > Herb was just over 900 messages.
> > Brad was somewhere in the 700s.
> > Elle was next (unless I missed someone) in the mid-300s.
> > Ben C. was in the 200s.
> > I either forgot to look for Ed, or forgot how many messages he had.
> > Everyone else that I think of as a frequent poster was around 200 or
> less.
> >
> >
> > This was a real quick exercise, because my main objective was to handicap
> > upcoming college bowl games, so I'm sure there's someone I missed, but I
> > think the reason we might be losing people is not because of the contents
> of
> > the posts, it's that the conversation is being dominated.
> >
> > By the way, happy holidays to everyone.  I wish you all the best for 09.
> >
> >
> > Ben S.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Herb Parsons
> > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 17:20
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Deregulation and Da List
> >
> > Elle,
> >
> > I notice that you, and a few others, when actually confronted, don't
> > ante up.
> >
> > What did I do to "throw water on the others"? I posted a reasoned
> > response to a bunch of crap about racism. They don't like it. Too bad.
> > You seem to jump in there anytime someone disagrees with this same sort
> > of nonsense.
> >
> > I'm opinionated. I don't doubt it.
> > I stand by my views, except when I find their wrong for me. Then I
> > change them.
> >
> > However, I don't resort to the silly name calling until it's thrown at
> > me first
> >
> > And, I'm not saying for an instant that I don't "cause a problem".
> > However, in this case I don't see where I did.
> >
> > Bill posted the link. I posted a reasoned response. You apparently,
> > don't like that I did so. Too bad.
> >
> >
> > elle wrote:
> >
> >> Ah, Herb,
> >> Another reasoned and thoughtful response from you. You have such a way
> >>
> > with words that shows your nature. You make me laugh...I often have that
> > reaction to .......(don't want to call you names...so fill in your own,
> > folks.)
> >
> >> And you never cause a problem...it's always the other guy.
> >>
> >> Ya wanna mix it up?
> >>
> >> I taught second grade..I  can handle you...But don't care to exert the
> >>
> > effort.
> >
> >> Read up to Michael's response a few replies above this one. Take it to
> >>
> > heart...everyone.
> >
> >> elle..
> >>
> >> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
> >>
> >> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Mon, 12/29/08, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Deregulation and Da List
> >>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 1:50 PM
> >>> Elle,
> >>>
> >>> You know what? Kiss off. I did nothing to "throw
> >>> water" on this. Some
> >>> ass on here (and yes, it was ass-like behavior, if you
> >>> don't like it,
> >>> don't play) pulled his favorite "you're the
> >>> bad guy" routine by bringing
> >>> up the racism tag.
> >>>
> >>> I've seen a lot of BS on here the past few days,
> >>> started to spout off,
> >>> and then thought "nah, why bother". However, if
> >>> someone DOES choose to
> >>> "bother", they should expect a response.
> >>> That's what "discussions" are
> >>> about.
> >>>
> >>> For those of you that simply want a podium to espouse your
> >>> views
> >>> unchallenged, I submit you're in the wrong playground.
> >>>
> >>> I hate the thought of Rummy leaving. But he's a big
> >>> boy, I suspect he
> >>> knows exactly what he's doing by now. (I also suspect
> >>> he's kinda feeling
> >>> a little embarrassed at over-reacting, I know I would).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> elle wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Well, SH*T.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can't a girl have some fun (& feed her heart
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> & soul)  w/out the playground erupting?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Everybody..back in the pool & Herb, Bill & Ed,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> stop throwing water in everyone's faces.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> And, please...let me have some fun (;^) before I have
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> to come back to earth...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Love ya all...please everyone stay around....
> >>>>
> >>>> elle
> >>>>
> >>>> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> can adjust our sails.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>   (Lady in Red)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> --- On Mon, 12/29/08, John Lock
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> <jlock at relevantarts.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Deregulation and Da
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> List
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>, "Robert
> >>> Skinner" <Robert at SquirrelHaven.com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 12:54 PM
> >>>>> At 11:31 AM 12/29/2008 -0500, Robert Skinner
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> John Lock and MJM,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As prime movers in setting up and maintaining
> >>>>>> this list, you enjoy positions of authority
> >>>>>> and respect.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Doubtful, but thanks for the plug.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sorry to see you go, but you should know how this
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> list
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> works by
> >>>>> now.  Most of the traffic is generated by a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> relative few
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> self-important, dick-waving, gas bags and has
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> nothing to do
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> with the
> >>>>> Rhodes 22 or sailing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sure, we could start banning people and enforcing
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> content
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> rules, but
> >>>>> I (for one) don't want to be in THAT hot seat.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>  Mail
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> filters and the
> >>>>> delete key should be enough to manage the problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>  Nobody
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> forces
> >>>>> anyone to read the crap and the tools for
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> bypassing it are
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> simple.  If you choose to support a position or
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> offer an
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> opinion, you
> >>>>> KNOW what will happen!  It's not a surprise
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> any more!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> Cheers!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John Lock
> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> >>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>>
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> >>> Herb Parsons
> >>>
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