[Rhodes22-list] More crabbing

[Michael D. Weisner]

Brad,

Metroliners - oh the memories!  Nineteen seats as I recall and no separate 
cabin.  How could they have prevented the paying customers from knowing what 
was going on?  It was just a curtain that separated the cockpit from the 
main cabin.  Stability problems all of the time.  I hated the FRG-BOS run in 
the 80s.  Logan xwind was always a problem, not to mention the F/Metro's 
habit of "bobbing" like a cork.  They were all over the map!

Mike
s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
       Nissequogue River, NY

From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com> Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:36 
PM
Rik,

That reminds me of a 'war story' from my commuter days at "Scheduled
Scareways".  The lovely Metroliner was a POS straight from the factory and
after a few years of SS maintenance they were outright 'deathtubes'. The
props never went into reverse symmetrically so you'd try and debrief the
crew handing off the airplane, or if unavailable, you would very gingerly go
into reverse on the first landing to see if it wanted to dart left or
right.  We had a crew landing in a snowstorm in Springfield, MO with the F/O
flying.  The Captain told him not to use reverse on touchdown because 1 -
they didn't know which way it would dart, and 2 - reversing in snow blows
the stuff forward and you go 0/0 on visibility immediately.  Soooooo, they
touch down and he instantly honks it into full reverse.  They go well off
the runway, parallel it for a few hundred yards, and through no skill and
cunning of theirs, end-up back on the runway.  The tower can only see a big
plume of snow so they ask, "Skyways, are you OK?"  By now the skipper has
the airplane back and the F/O attempts his best manly-man voice with the
seat cushion half-way up his anal port.

"YES!"  The pax couldn't see a thing and didn't know what happened.  The
only reason the rest of knew the truth was because the Captain was so scared
he felt compelled to warn us about the F/O.

As Lou Holtz used to say on Johnny Carson when he coached the Razorbacks,
"Fayetteville, AR is so small the local airline doesn't sell tickets, they
sell chances."

He was only half kidding.

Brad

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Rik Sandberg <sanderico1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Had a landing like that in a 737 at O'hare (windy city, what a surprise)
> back in the 90s. Looking down the runway through the side window of the
> airplane was an experience I'll not forget soon. It was, let's say,
> exhilarating ..... I have to admit to some relief after I realized the
> landing gear had held.
>
> Rik
>
> There is no magic to Free Enterprise. It is the best way to create wealth,
> but it does not prevent people from making mistakes. Capitalism offers
> people a chance to make money. But it also offers them a chance to make
> fools of themselves. Free Enterprise – like the rest of life – merely
> permits nature to take her course.....Bill Bonner
>
>
>
>
> Brad Haslett wrote:
> >> I don't fly any more, so I'll go on memory.
> >>
> >> As I recollect, one generally uses a little
> >> power to pull most planes straight as the
> >> wheels touch down, then brakes hard once she
> >> is pointed right (given a long runway).
> >>
> >> Your thoughts?
> >>
> >> /Robert
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> "Michael D. Weisner" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Robert,
> >>>
> >>> With L1011s you always pushed with the throttle - more speed needed.
> >>>
> >>  Looked
> >>
> >>> like a real light load.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >>> Nissequogue River, NY
> >>>
> >>> From: "Robert Skinner" <robert at squirrelhaven.com> Thursday, February
> 14,
> >>> 2008 12:14 PM
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/967820/extreme_crosswind_landing/
> >>>>
> >>>> /Robert
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