[Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel

Wed Jan 23 09:48:28 EST 2008

Steven:

You have given sound advice.  I was just about to pack it in when I received 
your e-mail.  Of course your right and will proceed cautiously.

Thanks Again

Chris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm at gmail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel

> Chris,
>
> I think it all depends on how you like to sail.  Obviously the R22 is much
> more tender than a full keel boat like the Dana, Flicka, Cape Dory,
> whatever, but I've been caught in high winds and have been way 
> over-powered
> and dunked my rails and shipped water into the cockpit many times.  If you
> don't mind riding a spirited horse then you'll be fine.  The boat is
> seaworthy as hell but in high winds, you're in for some "X sailing." 
> Secure
> your gear and sail her like a laser.  I'm fine with that and the boat's 
> fine
> with that, but the Mrs. doesn't like it that much.  Therein lies the
> question:  What does the Mrs. want?  I've finally learned to reef way the
> hell in and sail upright in high winds and keep the crew happy and safe.
> This is the beauty of the Rhodes IMF with furling Genny--infinite reefing
> capabilities.
>
> That said, the highest wind you can comfortably sail the R22 in is about
> 27.  Beyond that the hull has too much windage to tack about.  In that 
> case
> you have to jibe about, but you can still make way.  And if you're going
> downwind, you'll be a happy guy!
>
> As for toughness, the R22 has 9 stays--each with it's own chainplate.  You
> could lose any two and the mast would still stand.  Ummm...probably.
>
> You said you are enamored by the Rhodes (as well you should be) for her 
> many
> great features.  You said you want to explore the islands--with the
> combination keel of the Rhodes you can easily beach your boat on those
> islands.  You certainly can't do that with a full keel.
>
> You're an experienced sailor and you know big WX can f**k you up no matter
> what boat you're on.  Examine your needs and wants and ask more questions
> here.
>
> Re Panama, the San Blas are on the Caribbean side which is far more calm
> than the Pacific.  I think you'd be fine with the R22.
>
> Slim
>
> On Jan 23, 2008 12:50 AM, john Belanger <jhnblngr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> i have to ask a question. why are you buying a boat here and taking it to
>> panama? are you sailing it to panama, shipping it or driving down with it 
>> on
>> a trailer?  i may have missed part of your explanation, somewhere. sorry, 
>> i
>> just don't get it. are you going to be on the atlantic  or pacific side?
>>
>> Chris Crispel <ccrispel at jeffnet.org> wrote:  You mean like a larger,
>> heavier boat with a diesel engine and prop (under
>> the hull)
>>
>> thanks, you and others are helping me make a decision.
>>
>> Chris
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Just bent"
>> To:
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Chris,
>> > I have not been sailing long but I have been out in some big weather in
>> my
>> > R22, (on a lake) and the one thing that was a problem for me was the
>> motor
>> > hanging off the back of the boat. I was rolling so much the prop would
>> > come
>> > out of the water. I remember thinking it might be better if the prop 
>> > was
>> > under the boat.
>> >
>> > Jb
>> > Just bent
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Chris Crispel wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Tootle:
>> >>
>> >> I'm here on "the list" because I have been taken with the Rhodes 22 
>> >> but
>> >> have
>> >> a major question that needs to be put to the members of 'the list".
>> >>
>> >> My wife and I will be moving to the Republic of Panama to make it our
>> >> future
>> >> home. As you may know, there are no bays (to speak of) or lakes, just
>> >> the
>> >> ocean. My question is multifaceted- have any of you sailed offshore in
>> >> the
>> >> Rhodes?, how does she handle ocean swells, what adjustments
>> >> (modifications)
>> >> would you make to increase safety and comfort aboard. Yes, I do know
>> >> that
>> >> one can sail in a cork, but who wants to be battered about in the
>> ocean.
>> >>
>> >> I have been sailing since the age of 16 and now I'm way, way, beyond
>> >> that.
>> >> I am a highly experienced sailor and my common sea sense is that this
>> >> vessel
>> >> is to small and subject to being tossed about like a cork. So, please
>> >> tell
>> >> me that I am wrong and making to much out of this.
>> >>
>> >> I currently reside in Ashland, Oregon and would love to meet other
>> owners
>> >> and their vessels. California and Oregon are the States where that
>> would
>> >> be
>> >> possible. However, if I can't meet everyone, then I will have to be
>> >> satisfied with "the list".
>> >>
>> >> Many Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Chris Crispel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Tootle"
>> >> To:
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:42 AM
>> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Chris,
>> >>>
>> >>> Welcome to the Rhodes List. Now, just who are you? And where ya be?
>> >>> And
>> >>> why ya here?
>> >>>
>> >>> Ed K
>> >>> Greenville, SC, USA
>> >>> fishin' is like a box of chocolate.. u never no what your gonna
>> catch..
>> >>> and
>> >>> sometimes you catch nothing! Unattributed
>> >>>
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