[Rhodes22-list] Tom's Boom Pin Question - My solution
Michael D. Weisner
mweisner at ebsmed.com
Wed Jul 16 12:04:35 EDT 2008
Rather than using screws and such, why not equip your on-board tool kit with
a few fast pins of various diameters and lengths to use temporarily or in
emergencies. Next time you wander through WM or your favorite sail hardware
website, just buy a couple of 3/16" to 1/4" diameter, 1", 2" and 3" pins to
have when needed. In addition, I always carry scraps of wire (mostly 12-2
w/gnd) to use for whatever. Before I changed the cockpit seat drains to
larger diameters, the wire was routinely used as a "snake" to clear debris.
When I lost the fast pin below our boom, I used a piece of wire (with
insulation) to secure it until I had replaced the pin.
Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:14 AM
> Art,
> The simple and proper solution is to order the replacement from GB. Stan
> is
> known for sending parts out quickly. In the interim, I would use a roofing
> nail. It doesn't have coarse threads and it has a large head which will
> keep it
> from disappearing into the mast and it is galvanized which means it won't
> rust. I replaced my cars with new factory replacements several years ago
> and the
> newer plastic holds up much better.
> Different way to approach sail management in heavy air, but the majority
> of
> skippers will lower the boom prior to reducing sail. The main reason would
> be
> not to give up hull speed and still maintain control. If I know what the
> winds are prior to going out, I will adjust the boom and the sheets
> accordingly.
> Making any further adjustments while out sailing are usually done after
> furling all sail and then going forward if need be. Furling Jenny and
> furling main
> sail make it an easy proposition, unless you have had to much rum to
> drink,
> which I never do while sailing.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 7/16/2008 9:55:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> czerwonky at earthlink.net writes:
>
> Rummy,
>
> Given the unavailability of the car, and hopefully it is available from
> Stan, I stand by my interim recommendation. A replacement car is
> obviously the
> better long term choice. Additionally, I would have the boom supported
> in
> either upper or lower position by some means, if a replacement car is not
> fixed
> to the mast. What better temporary alternative do you recommend to a
> properly fitted screw? A fastpin is possible but may be too large. In
> no case
> would I allow the boom to be supported be the smaller PT fixture.
>
> We have have a different approach to sail management. Underway solo, if
> winds get heavy enough, I will first first shorten the mainsail and
> headsail
> versus lowering the boom. I would never leave the helm or cockpit in
> heavy or
> gusty wind conditions - not good headwork. If I had a reliable crew I
> might
> then lower the boom, and then possibly readjust the sails. Best
> resolution of
> all, as we have learned, is to anticipate wind conditions before getting
> underway.
>
> I also prefer the cockpit mobility available with the boom up.
>
> Ultimately, the greatest attribute of a good skipper depends on brain
> mass,
> not body mass.
>
> Chow,
>
> Art
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>Sent: Jul 16, 2008 8:39 AM
>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] progress/bad advice
>>
>>Art,
>>Not good advice. A replacement car is readily available from GB. I
>>wouldn't
>
>>use anything but an original replacement and certainly not a machine
>>screw.
>
>>Being able to drop the boom is one of the easiest ways to adjust the
> rigging
>>for big winds. However, some of our Rhodies obviously have enough mass
> that
>>they don't have a need to lower the center of effort on their boat. :)
>>
>>Rummy
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 7/16/2008 7:44:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>czerwonky at earthlink.net writes:
>>
>>Tom,
>>I wouldn't lose sleep over the archives issue. Our Rhoadie skippers,
>>with
>
>>just a few exceptions, have enough patience with our fleet colleagues to
>>address specific questions like this, even given that many are repeated.
> Your
>>picture says it all - you can see both pins are the same - Stan will
> probably
>>not have a replacement, but can tell you where he gets the assembled
> 'car'. In
>>the interim, the boom will have to be moved up or down infrequently - I
> have
>>never had to put mine into the lower position - use a #6 machine screw
>>(or
>>one with reasonable fit, including length) from HD to hold it in either
>>position, until you can replace the pin. Stan may be able to send you a
>>replacement car for a cost.
>>R,
>>Art
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Tom Hogarty <tjhogarty at gmail.com>
>>>Sent: Jul 15, 2008 7:42 PM
>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] progress
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks, Art, here is a picture of parts of the two "cars" on the lower
>>mast.
>>>I can see the indentation where the collar of the boom pin latch fit.
> How
>>>do I obtain and replace the pin? Does the mast need to be lowered?
>>>I did not find the archives helpful.
>>>Many Thanks,
>>>Tom http://www.nabble.com/file/p18477261/IMG_0657.jpeg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>> Re. the boom dropping - yes, there is a separate pin latch for each
>>>> of
> the
>>>> two 'cars' that travel up and down the mast. Be aware that on the
>>>> IMF
>>>> mast, when you adjust the upper car, the IMF sail and its furling
>>>> tube
>>>> ride up or down the mast also, so additional weight is involved. I
>>>> believe the pin for the upper car will be 28 1/2 " above the base of
> the
>>>> mast.
>>>> Happy sailing on a spectacular boat!
>>>> Art
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Tom Hogarty <tjhogarty at gmail.com>
>>>>>Sent: Jul 13, 2008 9:33 PM
>>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] progress
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Mast went up on our newly named "acorn" this afternoon. Yoke and
>>>>>mast
>>>winch
>>>>>worked great as did the help from the documentation by former owner,
>>>>>Bob
>>>>>Dobson, this wonderful forum, and Stan's great engineering. Easy as
>>pie!
>>>>>Skiptress Alice cranked it all by herself. I had thought we would
>>>>>need
> to
>>>>>host a barn raising party, but we did it all by ourselfs. It did
>>>>>take
>>>much,
>>>>>much longer than 20 minutes, but we learned so much about our boat in
> the
>>>>>process. Acorn is still trailered at Holiday Hill on the Rhodes
>>>>>River
>>>south
>>>>>of Annapolis and has a mess of details to go before launch. I pulled
> the
>>>>>pin to lower the pop top mast attachment and the boom came down as
> well.
>>>Is
>>>>>there a separate control pin for the boom? The pin for the pop top
>>>>>attachment is on the starboard side of the mast. None on the port
>>>>>side
>>>>>where I might expect on for the boom. My archive search was not as
> yet
>>>>>helpful.
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Tom Hogarty
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