[Rhodes22-list] Commodore Spitzer's political reply to Brad's 25 minute demonstration of true evil[political]
brad haslett
flybrad at yahoo.com
Sun Jul 20 19:26:31 EDT 2008
Ed,
I've been wondering the same thing. I've never been a one issue voter or into identity politics, but, but you don't have to dig far into Barry's friends and advisers to come to a disturbing conclusion. Samantha Power was fired as a Barry adviser because she called Hillary a 'monster'. Read her published opinions on Israel and tell me it took the 'monster' comment to earn a firing! I don't do religion and I don't do race but you can bet your ass I support democracies and I make no apologies about supporting Israel. None! I don't give a shit what race, religion, or creed Israel follows - they're a friend, they're a democracy, and apparently the only country in the Middle East that knows how to survive without oil.
Read the left wing blogs like DailyKos or DemocraticUnderground. Being anti-semite is suddenly chic and they're not so clever that they can hide behind language.
The problem is, they don't have to be clever. We're being swept-over by a 'movement'. Let's hope when this revival is over and the tent is gone, we still have a country left!
Brad
--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Commodore Spitzer's political reply to Brad's 25 minute demonstration of true evil[political]
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 4:47 PM
> Stan:
>
> Obama may get elected. And I am puzzled why anybody of
> Jewish ancestry
> would support him.
>
> If anybody has done just a little research and study, it
> would be found that
> Obama is a fellow traveler or acolyte of W.E.B. DuBois. I
> do not ask
> anyone to read all of Dubois’s writings. Just read
> enough to get the gist
> of what he believed and advocated. Then follow his life,
> to when he left
> USA to go to the Soviet Union, denounce his citizenship and
> then move to an
> African country in his last years.
>
> What is the tie in of Obama to DuBois? First thing is
> that Obama has
> stated that he is a ‘Progressive’. Second, the church
> that until recently
> Obama attended and until Obama won his first primary,
> openly advocated study
> of DuBois. DuBois writings were openly on their web site
> as recommended
> study. Obama surely knows this.
>
> That word ‘Progressive’ has come to in today’s world
> to include what in the
> past were called Marxist. Marxist is an inclusive term
> that in the past has
> included Communists, Social Democrats, and importantly
> National Socialist.
> Understand that Hitler was a German National Socialist and
> popularly
> elected.
>
> I believe and contend that Obama’s true politics are
> essentially the same
> socialist beliefs of the German National Socialist and the
> Soviet
> Communists. Ask the question, how did people of Jewish
> ancestry fair under
> either of those socialist systems? How can anybody of
> Jewish ancestry
> accept that?
>
> Socialism has lead to tyranny. And Obama admits that he is
> a ‘Progressive’
> [remember that word in todays language includes socialism,
> Marxism, etc.]
>
> I am one small minority do not believe that we should go
> down that road
> again.
>
> Ed K
> addendum:
> "In Germany they first came for the Communists
> and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a
> Communist.
> Then they came for the Jews,
> and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
> Then they came for the trade unionists
> and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade
> unionist.
> Then they came for the Catholics
> and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
> Then they came for me
> and by that time no one was left to speak up.
>
> --The Reverend Martin Niemöller, a pastor in the German
> Confessing Church
> who spent seven years in a concentration camp.
>
>
>
>
> quote author="stanleyl">
> sorry guys - been too busy to follow all this so not sure
> if you all are
> talking about Bush or Obama the positive thing about
> Bush is that we have
> seen what he has accomplished - personally I think we have
> come to the point
> where the odds are better that we take advantage of the
> unknown rather than
> the known. True, no one could be worse so on that basis
> the case could be
> made for McCain - but that's too close for comfort for
> my gambling soul.
> ....so me and a lot of fellow traveler Republicans will be
> going with the
> safer of your evils this time around. Sorry it could not
> have been Hilary
> so at least Brad could have joined us.
>
> ss
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "brad haslett" <flybrad at yahoo.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 9:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad's 25 minute
> demonstration of true
> evil[political]
>
>
> > Ed,
> >
> > You wrote, "How many take time to understand who
> Obama is?"
> >
> > That Sir, is the problem in a nutshell. I challenge
> anyone to look at The
> > Messiah's record as a "community
> organizer" and name one successful
> > outcome, especially in housing or education. I'm
> not asking for a dozen
> > examples, not five, not even two, just ONE, thank-you
> very much. The
> > reason he never talks about the last two decades of
> his career is because
> > there isn't much to talk about unless you include
> the substantial number
> > of far, far left crazies, Marxists, and convicted
> criminals he hung out
> > with and was supported by. Let's shift gears here,
> what has Barry written?
> > He's written two books, both about himself. In
> what must be a first in
> > publishing, he was paid a $40,000 advance for the
> first one, an
> > auto-biography, and then advanced another $40,000 when
> he missed the first
> > deadline. OK, let's give credit where credit is
> due, perhaps no other
> > author in the history of publishing has pulled off
> such a feat so kudos to
> > the Big O. What bills has he
> > written as an Illinois or US Senator? I'm not
> asking for a dozen bills,
> > not even five, just ONE single solitary bill that
> Obama was responsible
> > for writing himself. Oh, he was editor of the
> Harvard Law Review, very
> > impressive indeed. What did he publish while holding
> that title? Can
> > anyone point to a single legal brief he wrote as a
> practicing attorney?
> > That wouldn't be a fair question for his wife
> Michelle since she let her
> > law license lapse. Who can blame her when she got a
> 100% raise after her
> > husband was elected US Senator.
> >
> > If people really want Marxism, then Barry is surely
> the Man! Time is doing
> > a 26 page puff-piece on The Obama this week.
> You'll learn all about his
> > workout schedule, eating habits, etc., all the
> important stuff voters need
> > to know about a potential "leader of the Free
> World". That may be
> > important to some, not to me. Could someone, anyone,
> point out one single
> > success of any kind this man has achieved other than
> write about himself
> > and get elected to an office with no competition? He
> ran a profitable hot
> > dog stand would be fine. He was voted "paper boy
> of the year", he made
> > Eagle Scout, something, anything!
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Tootle
> <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Brad's 25 minute
> demonstration of true evil
> >> [political]
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 7:56 AM
> >> Brad,
> >>
> >> I watched the whole 25 minutes of Obama's
> speech. All
> >> I could think of was
> >> Elmer Gantry, Jim Baker and kindred apostles.
> Here is a
> >> guy who neither
> >> understands history nor economics nor human nature
> if he
> >> believes what he
> >> said, and I think that he does.
> >>
> >> And for all his acolytes on this forum, and the
> one ostrich
> >> from Chicago
> >> this is a real failure to distinguish this
> rhetoric from
> >> what was recorded
> >> from the USA’s founding fathers in the written
> documents
> >> and supporting
> >> discussions on the reasons for founding America.
> >>
> >> Socialism and its new cloak ‘progressive
> secularist’
> >> has been demonstrated
> >> to be a system that fails humanity. Examples of
> current
> >> European countries
> >> using socialist programs are proffered as reasons
> why
> >> America should adopt
> >> same. However, which system has created the
> greatest
> >> advancements for human
> >> kind? Which country has the greatest wealth to
> give to
> >> charitable causes?
> >> It is not Greece, France, Italy and other
> socialist
> >> systems.
> >>
> >> Obama’s speech demonstrated the most incredible
> lack of
> >> understanding of
> >> economics. And the gullible just eat this up.
> Obama and
> >> his followers and
> >> cohorts such as Nancy do not have a basic
> understanding of
> >> what economics
> >> calls wealth, understanding its creation and the
> human
> >> spirit.
> >>
> >> Your comments are apparently understood by a small
> number
> >> on this forum.
> >> Obama has repeatedly stated he is a progressive.
> There is
> >> a failure to
> >> understand that his word ‘progressive’ is
> really
> >> contemporary language for
> >> Marxism which is in old language communism,
> fascism, social
> >> democracy, etc.,
> >> etc. And those systems have led to human misery
> and worse.
> >> Read the results
> >> of Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, the Soviet Union,
> post WWII
> >> Greece, etc.
> >>
> >> How many take time to understand who Obama is?
> Thomas
> >> Sowell illustrates
> >> that in the following article:
> >>
> >> July 08, 2008
> >> Conservatives for Obama?
> >> By Thomas Sowell
> >>
> >> A number of friends of mine have commented on an
> odd
> >> phenomenon that they
> >> have observed-- conservative Republicans they know
> who are
> >> saying that they
> >> are going to vote for Barack Obama. It seemed at
> first to
> >> be an isolated
> >> fluke, perhaps signifying only that my friends
> know some
> >> strange
> >> conservatives. But apparently columnist Robert
> Novak has
> >> encountered the
> >> same phenomenon and has coined the term
> >> "Obamacons" to describe the
> >> conservatives for Senator Obama.
> >>
> >> Now the San Francisco Chronicle has run a feature
> article,
> >> titled "Some
> >> Influential Conservatives Spurn GOP and Endorse
> >> Obama." In it they quote
> >> various conservatives on why they are ready to
> take a
> >> chance on Barack
> >> Obama, rather than on John McCain.
> >>
> >> What is going on?
> >>
> >> Partly what is going on is that, in recent years,
> the
> >> Congressional
> >> Republicans in general-- and Senator John McCain
> in
> >> particular-- have so
> >> alienated so many conservatives that some of these
> >> conservatives are like a
> >> drowning man grasping at a straw.
> >>
> >> The straw in this case is Obama's recent
> >> "refining" of his position on a
> >> number of issues, as he edges toward the center,
> in order
> >> to try to pick up
> >> more votes in November's general election.
> >>
> >> Understandable as the reactions of some
> conservatives may
> >> be, a straw is a
> >> very unreliable flotation device.
> >>
> >> If all that was involved was Democrats versus
> Republicans,
> >> the Republicans
> >> would deserve the condemnation they are getting,
> after
> >> their years of wild
> >> spending and their multiple betrayals of the
> principles and
> >> the people who
> >> got them elected. Amnesty for illegal aliens was
> perhaps
> >> the worst betrayal.
> >>
> >> But, while the media may treat the elections as
> being about
> >> Democrats and
> >> Republicans-- the "horse race"
> approach--
> >> elections were not set up by the
> >> Constitution of the United States in order to
> enable party
> >> politicians to
> >> get jobs.
> >>
> >> Nor were elections set up in order to enable
> voters to vent
> >> their emotions
> >> or indulge their fantasies.
> >>
> >> Voting is a right but it is also a duty-- a duty
> not just
> >> to show up on
> >> election day, but a duty to give serious thought
> to the
> >> alternatives on the
> >> table and what those alternatives mean for the
> future of
> >> the nation.
> >>
> >> What is becoming ever more painfully apparent is
> that too
> >> many people this
> >> year-- whether conservative, liberals or
> whatever-- are all
> >> too willing to
> >> judge Barack Obama on the basis of his
> election-year
> >> rhetoric, rather than
> >> on the record of what he has advocated and done
> during the
> >> past two decades.
> >>
> >> Many are for him for no more serious reasons than
> his mouth
> >> and his
> >> complexion. The man has become a Rorschach test
> for the
> >> feelings and hopes,
> >> not only of those on the left, but also for some
> on the
> >> right as well.
> >>
> >> Here is a man who has consistently aided and
> abetted people
> >> who have openly
> >> expressed their contempt for this country, both in
> words
> >> and in such deeds
> >> as planting bombs to advance their left-wing
> agenda.
> >>
> >> Despite the spin that judging Obama by what was
> said or
> >> done by such people
> >> would be "guilt by association," he has
> not just
> >> associated with such
> >> people. He has in some cases donated some serious
> money of
> >> his own and even
> >> more of the taxpayers' money, as both a state
> senator
> >> in Illinois and a
> >> member of the Senate of the United States.
> >>
> >> Barack Obama is on record as favoring the kinds of
> justices
> >> who make policy,
> >> not just carry out laws. No matter how he may
> >> "refine" his position on this
> >> issue, he voted against the confirmation of Chief
> Justice
> >> John Roberts, who
> >> was easily confirmed by more than three-quarters
> of the
> >> Senators.
> >>
> >> Like people on the far left for literally
> centuries, Barack
> >> Obama plays down
> >> the dangers to the nation, and calls talk about
> such
> >> dangers "the politics
> >> of fear."
> >>
> >> Back in the 18th century, Helvetius said,
> "When I
> >> speak I put on a mask.
> >> When I act, I am forced to take it off." Too
> many
> >> voters still have not
> >> learned that lesson. They need to look at the
> track record
> >> of Obama's
> >> actions.
> >>
> >> Back in the days of "The Lone Ranger"
> program,
> >> someone would ask, "Who is
> >> that masked man?" People need to start asking
> that
> >> question about Barack
> >> Obama.
> >>
> >> Ed K
> >> Greenville, SC, USA
> >> attachment:
> >>
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p18544314/Axis%2Bof%2BEvil.jpg
> >> Axis+of+Evil.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Boys and Girls, I know this is a lot to ask, but
> listen
> >> between minute 16
> >> and 17-
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2p6867_pw
> >>
> >> Does this not scare the living shit out of you, or
> are you
> >> made of steel?
> >> Civilian Corps? What color shirts will they wear?
> >> O'Baby, do you think the
> >> rest of the country is as f*&k^d as the South
> Side of
> >> Chicago? Folks, we're
> >> 4 months away from this kind of talk being the
> norm!
> >>
> >> God Save the Queen!
> >>
> >> Brad
> >>
> >>
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p18544314/Axis%2Bof%2BEvil.jpg
> >> Axis+of+Evil.jpg
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