[Rhodes22-list] Brad, Elle, Slim, et al... (Big Al Delete)(Political references)(Save America Campaign)
brad haslett
flybrad at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 6 03:35:18 EDT 2008
John,
Reality! I sat next to a sweet young thing from China going to college in the US for 13 hours plus and we got on the subject of history. I apologized for not knowing history beyond the Ming and Ching Dynasty but it wouldn't have mattered. She didn't know Jack, same as any given youngster her age in the US.
Here's what I like about the private sector - I can move on. While you and I are having this debate, there are countries that are moving on. You're blowing smoke up your ass if you think that there is something unique about the US when it comes to basic human needs. I don't mind how much smoke you blow up your ass, as long as I don't have to pay for the smoke or suffer the consequences of you decisions. In the long history of mankind, nothing has put more food on the table or given people more freedom than capitalism. Yeah, it needs checks and balances, but it beats every other form of government. There will be just enough capitalism left during my lifetime to tell all the people with "a better idea" to go to hell. History is all about re-inventing the wheel.
You and I will be dead when this whole thing plays out. People who are self-starters will always survive. Good luck with your program!
Brad
--- On Fri, 6/6/08, john Belanger <jhnblngr at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: john Belanger <jhnblngr at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, Elle, Slim, et al... (Big Al Delete)(Political references)(Save America Campaign)
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 1:44 AM
> brad
> just one question:
> how can you have so much confidence in the private sector,
> and yet describe them this way:
> "I think most of the electorate is ignorant of
> history, economics, and politics, but that's just the
> mean-spirited, selfish, and reality-based side of me
> coming out."
> my belief, and perhaps false hope, is that government is
> supposed to maintain a level playing field for all citizens
> in their "pursuit" of happiness.
> someone once complained about people who denigrated
> religious faith in the "new age of reason" as
> unnecessary. to which the response was, you don't want
> to be facing the devil without the shield of religious
> faith between you and him. thats what i expect of my
> government....a shield to defend me from excesses of the
> private sector.
>
>
>
> s/v 1969 venture 21
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/5/08, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, Elle, Slim, et
> al... (Big Al Delete)(Political references)(Save America
> Campaign)
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Thursday, June 5, 2008, 10:55 PM
> > Ed,
> >
> >
> > "I am sorry that you bought into the fellow
> travelers
> > idea that compulsory
> > purchase contracts by a government agency is the same
> as
> > collective
> > bargaining. In the compulsory contracts for
> > pharmaceuticals there just
> > might be unintended consequences."
> >
> > Where did you ever get that idea? That is the
> antithesis
> > of my thought
> > process. I believe there are damn few things that the
> > government can do
> > better than the private sector. We're going to
> get
> > some form of "national"
> > healthcare regardless of which party takes power. The
> > country is in the
> > mood. I think most of the electorate is ignorant of
> > history, economics,
> > and politics, but that's just the mean-spirited,
> > selfish, and reality-based
> > side of me coming out.
> >
> > BTW, I was the guest of a government Kuhuna last week
> > (sent his driver for
> > us in a brand-new Audi) for tea (actually I drank free
> > communist beer).
> > Life is good if you're in control. The difference
> is,
> > in this country, I
> > can complain about the quality of the government
> provided
> > "free" beer.
> >
> > We have the farthest left candidate nominated for
> President
> > in the history
> > of the nation. He's being propped-up by the MSM
> which
> > is pretty far left
> > themselves. I hope everyone has their eyes open. I
> have
> > my exit plan. Do
> > you?
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Tootle
> > <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Brad:
> > >
> > > Keep the political references coming. Your last
> post
> > that had the
> > > reference
> > > to:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://gregransom.com/prestopundit/2008/06/obama-tell-us-what-a-sacrifice.html
> > >
> > > lead to a very good analysis:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDkyZTNiZDdkMTNiNzViZTYxNDU0MTY4MzMzMzNmZDU=
> > >
> > > I am sorry that you bought into the fellow
> travelers
> > idea that compulsory
> > > purchase contracts by a government agency is the
> same
> > as collective
> > > bargaining. In the compulsory contracts for
> > pharmaceuticals there just
> > > might be unintended consequences. Small unique
> drug
> > makers may be forced
> > > not to participate resulting in their demise
> because
> > of the very
> > > specialized
> > > uses of their products. When complying with
> request
> > for lower costs, jobs
> > > will be shipped overseas. One of the first cost
> > cutting techniques of just
> > > looking at the bottom line and not the future is
> > research, which will be
> > > left to foreign concerns.
> > >
> > > In contrast, you have benefitted from collective
> > bargaining where first, if
> > > you did not like the contract, you had freedom to
> work
> > elsewhere.
> > > Additionally, FEDX concluded that the skill level
> of
> > its employees was very
> > > important to the success of its business model.
> > Additionally, detailed
> > > analysis of the contracts show that the company
> can
> > still make a ROI that
> > > keeps it in business.
> > >
> > > Mixing the two concepts is just the Marxist way
> of
> > inching away at
> > > individual freedoms.
> > >
> > > Since you have unique research resources, where
> is a
> > good article that
> > > clearly demonstrates Obama's socialist (for
> those
> > not willing to accept
> > > that
> > > word, Marxist) economic ideology as having its
> > historical roots in the
> > > concepts and beliefs of W.E.B. Dubois.
> > >
> > > Hopefully, Elle has been reading the articles to
> the
> > point of
> > > comprehension.
> > >
> > > Ed K
> > > Greenville, SC, USA
> > > attachment:
> > > http://www.nabble.com/file/p17645451/today.jpg
> > today.jpg
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