[Rhodes22-list] Brad, Elle, Slim, et al... (Big Al Delete)(Political references)(Save America Campaign)
john Belanger
jhnblngr at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 6 13:13:37 EDT 2008
i should have said intelligent government. sorry.
--- On Fri, 6/6/08, Rik Sandberg <sanderico1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Rik Sandberg <sanderico1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, Elle, Slim, et al... (Big Al Delete)(Political references)(Save America Campaign)
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 7:03 AM
> John,
>
> "and *perhaps false hope*, is that government is
> supposed to maintain a level playing field for all citizens
> in their "pursuit" of happiness."
>
> All one has to do is look at the situation we are in now,
> (the last 5 years) to realize that your dream of a level
> playing field via gov't control is just exactly that
> ... a dream and not a very good one at that.
>
> Money flows to where it gets treated the best. When prices
> are artificially high or low that flow can become a flood.
> Had the gov't stayed out of the banking business for
> example and let interest rates assume their own natural
> level, we wouldn't be seeing the collapse of a housing
> bubble now. Instead we have mega-wealthy bankers who are
> not held responsible for their own foolishness, a currency
> that is fast becoming useless and 4 dollar gas, just to
> name a few. Was that the help ... the level playing field
> you were hoping for? That's what your gov'ts
> meddling is doing for you.
>
> Rik
>
>
> In a centrally planned economy people get what they
> deserve, but rarely what they really want. Mistakes tend to
> be enormous...and petty. Results vary, but experiments with
> central planning always end in pathetic messes.....Bill
> Bonner
>
>
>
> john Belanger wrote:
> > brad
> > just one question:
> > how can you have so much confidence in the private
> sector, and yet describe them this way:
> > "I think most of the electorate is ignorant of
> history, economics, and politics, but that's just the
> mean-spirited, selfish, and reality-based side of me
> coming out."
> > my belief, and perhaps false hope, is that government
> is supposed to maintain a level playing field for all
> citizens in their "pursuit" of happiness.
> > someone once complained about people who denigrated
> religious faith in the "new age of reason" as
> unnecessary. to which the response was, you don't want
> to be facing the devil without the shield of religious
> faith between you and him. thats what i expect of my
> government....a shield to defend me from excesses of the
> private sector.
> >
> >
> >
> > s/v 1969 venture 21
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 6/5/08, Brad Haslett
> <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> From: Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, Elle, Slim, et
> al... (Big Al Delete)(Political references)(Save America
> Campaign)
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Date: Thursday, June 5, 2008, 10:55 PM
> >> Ed,
> >>
> >>
> >> "I am sorry that you bought into the fellow
> travelers
> >> idea that compulsory
> >> purchase contracts by a government agency is the
> same as
> >> collective
> >> bargaining. In the compulsory contracts for
> >> pharmaceuticals there just
> >> might be unintended consequences."
> >>
> >> Where did you ever get that idea? That is the
> antithesis
> >> of my thought
> >> process. I believe there are damn few things that
> the
> >> government can do
> >> better than the private sector. We're going
> to get
> >> some form of "national"
> >> healthcare regardless of which party takes power.
> The
> >> country is in the
> >> mood. I think most of the electorate is ignorant
> of
> >> history, economics,
> >> and politics, but that's just the
> mean-spirited,
> >> selfish, and reality-based
> >> side of me coming out.
> >>
> >> BTW, I was the guest of a government Kuhuna last
> week
> >> (sent his driver for
> >> us in a brand-new Audi) for tea (actually I drank
> free
> >> communist beer).
> >> Life is good if you're in control. The
> difference is,
> >> in this country, I
> >> can complain about the quality of the government
> provided
> >> "free" beer.
> >>
> >> We have the farthest left candidate nominated for
> President
> >> in the history
> >> of the nation. He's being propped-up by the
> MSM which
> >> is pretty far left
> >> themselves. I hope everyone has their eyes open.
> I have
> >> my exit plan. Do
> >> you?
> >>
> >> Brad
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Tootle
> >> <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Brad:
> >>>
> >>> Keep the political references coming. Your
> last post
> >>>
> >> that had the
> >>
> >>> reference
> >>> to:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://gregransom.com/prestopundit/2008/06/obama-tell-us-what-a-sacrifice.html
> >>
> >>> lead to a very good analysis:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDkyZTNiZDdkMTNiNzViZTYxNDU0MTY4MzMzMzNmZDU=
> >>
> >>> I am sorry that you bought into the fellow
> travelers
> >>>
> >> idea that compulsory
> >>
> >>> purchase contracts by a government agency is
> the same
> >>>
> >> as collective
> >>
> >>> bargaining. In the compulsory contracts for
> >>>
> >> pharmaceuticals there just
> >>
> >>> might be unintended consequences. Small
> unique drug
> >>>
> >> makers may be forced
> >>
> >>> not to participate resulting in their demise
> because
> >>>
> >> of the very
> >>
> >>> specialized
> >>> uses of their products. When complying with
> request
> >>>
> >> for lower costs, jobs
> >>
> >>> will be shipped overseas. One of the first
> cost
> >>>
> >> cutting techniques of just
> >>
> >>> looking at the bottom line and not the future
> is
> >>>
> >> research, which will be
> >>
> >>> left to foreign concerns.
> >>>
> >>> In contrast, you have benefitted from
> collective
> >>>
> >> bargaining where first, if
> >>
> >>> you did not like the contract, you had freedom
> to work
> >>>
> >> elsewhere.
> >>
> >>> Additionally, FEDX concluded that the skill
> level of
> >>>
> >> its employees was very
> >>
> >>> important to the success of its business
> model.
> >>>
> >> Additionally, detailed
> >>
> >>> analysis of the contracts show that the
> company can
> >>>
> >> still make a ROI that
> >>
> >>> keeps it in business.
> >>>
> >>> Mixing the two concepts is just the Marxist
> way of
> >>>
> >> inching away at
> >>
> >>> individual freedoms.
> >>>
> >>> Since you have unique research resources,
> where is a
> >>>
> >> good article that
> >>
> >>> clearly demonstrates Obama's socialist
> (for those
> >>>
> >> not willing to accept
> >>
> >>> that
> >>> word, Marxist) economic ideology as having its
> >>>
> >> historical roots in the
> >>
> >>> concepts and beliefs of W.E.B. Dubois.
> >>>
> >>> Hopefully, Elle has been reading the articles
> to the
> >>>
> >> point of
> >>
> >>> comprehension.
> >>>
> >>> Ed K
> >>> Greenville, SC, USA
> >>> attachment:
> >>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p17645451/today.jpg
> >>>
> >> today.jpg
> >>
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