[Rhodes22-list] Brad, Elle, Slim, et al... (Big Al Delete)(Political references)(Save America Campaign)
john Belanger
jhnblngr at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 7 14:57:48 EDT 2008
only in legal documents. oh, i'm sorry. you said in the same sentence. no. that would be a oxymoron.;-))))
john b
s/v 1969 venture 21
--- On Sat, 6/7/08, Rik Sandberg <sanderico1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Rik Sandberg <sanderico1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, Elle, Slim, et al... (Big Al Delete)(Political references)(Save America Campaign)
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008, 6:20 AM
> John,
>
> Is it even permissible to use the words intelligent and
> government in
> the same sentence?? :-) :-)
>
> Rik
>
> In a centrally planned economy people get what they
> deserve, but rarely what they really want. Mistakes tend to
> be enormous...and petty. Results vary, but experiments with
> central planning always end in pathetic messes.....Bill
> Bonner
>
>
>
> john Belanger wrote:
> > i should have said intelligent government. sorry.
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 6/6/08, Rik Sandberg
> <sanderico1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> From: Rik Sandberg <sanderico1 at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, Elle, Slim, et
> al... (Big Al Delete)(Political references)(Save America
> Campaign)
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 7:03 AM
> >> John,
> >>
> >> "and *perhaps false hope*, is that government
> is
> >> supposed to maintain a level playing field for all
> citizens
> >> in their "pursuit" of happiness."
> >>
> >> All one has to do is look at the situation we are
> in now,
> >> (the last 5 years) to realize that your dream of a
> level
> >> playing field via gov't control is just
> exactly that
> >> ... a dream and not a very good one at that.
> >>
> >> Money flows to where it gets treated the best.
> When prices
> >> are artificially high or low that flow can become
> a flood.
> >> Had the gov't stayed out of the banking
> business for
> >> example and let interest rates assume their own
> natural
> >> level, we wouldn't be seeing the collapse of a
> housing
> >> bubble now. Instead we have mega-wealthy bankers
> who are
> >> not held responsible for their own foolishness, a
> currency
> >> that is fast becoming useless and 4 dollar gas,
> just to
> >> name a few. Was that the help ... the level
> playing field
> >> you were hoping for? That's what your
> gov'ts
> >> meddling is doing for you.
> >>
> >> Rik
> >>
> >>
> >> In a centrally planned economy people get what
> they
> >> deserve, but rarely what they really want.
> Mistakes tend to
> >> be enormous...and petty. Results vary, but
> experiments with
> >> central planning always end in pathetic
> messes.....Bill
> >> Bonner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> john Belanger wrote:
> >>
> >>> brad
> >>> just one question:
> >>> how can you have so much confidence in the
> private
> >>>
> >> sector, and yet describe them this way:
> >>
> >>> "I think most of the electorate is
> ignorant of
> >>>
> >> history, economics, and politics, but that's
> just the
> >> mean-spirited, selfish, and reality-based side of
> me
> >> coming out."
> >>
> >>> my belief, and perhaps false hope, is that
> government
> >>>
> >> is supposed to maintain a level playing field for
> all
> >> citizens in their "pursuit" of
> happiness.
> >>
> >>> someone once complained about people who
> denigrated
> >>>
> >> religious faith in the "new age of
> reason" as
> >> unnecessary. to which the response was, you
> don't want
> >> to be facing the devil without the shield of
> religious
> >> faith between you and him. thats what i expect of
> my
> >> government....a shield to defend me from excesses
> of the
> >> private sector.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> s/v 1969 venture 21
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Thu, 6/5/08, Brad Haslett
> >>>
> >> <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: Brad Haslett
> <flybrad at gmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad, Elle,
> Slim, et
> >>>>
> >> al... (Big Al Delete)(Political references)(Save
> America
> >> Campaign)
> >>
> >>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> >>>>
> >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>
> >>>> Date: Thursday, June 5, 2008, 10:55 PM
> >>>> Ed,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "I am sorry that you bought into the
> fellow
> >>>>
> >> travelers
> >>
> >>>> idea that compulsory
> >>>> purchase contracts by a government agency
> is the
> >>>>
> >> same as
> >>
> >>>> collective
> >>>> bargaining. In the compulsory contracts
> for
> >>>> pharmaceuticals there just
> >>>> might be unintended consequences."
> >>>>
> >>>> Where did you ever get that idea? That is
> the
> >>>>
> >> antithesis
> >>
> >>>> of my thought
> >>>> process. I believe there are damn few
> things that
> >>>>
> >> the
> >>
> >>>> government can do
> >>>> better than the private sector. We're
> going
> >>>>
> >> to get
> >>
> >>>> some form of "national"
> >>>> healthcare regardless of which party takes
> power.
> >>>>
> >> The
> >>
> >>>> country is in the
> >>>> mood. I think most of the electorate is
> ignorant
> >>>>
> >> of
> >>
> >>>> history, economics,
> >>>> and politics, but that's just the
> >>>>
> >> mean-spirited,
> >>
> >>>> selfish, and reality-based
> >>>> side of me coming out.
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW, I was the guest of a government
> Kuhuna last
> >>>>
> >> week
> >>
> >>>> (sent his driver for
> >>>> us in a brand-new Audi) for tea (actually
> I drank
> >>>>
> >> free
> >>
> >>>> communist beer).
> >>>> Life is good if you're in control.
> The
> >>>>
> >> difference is,
> >>
> >>>> in this country, I
> >>>> can complain about the quality of the
> government
> >>>>
> >> provided
> >>
> >>>> "free" beer.
> >>>>
> >>>> We have the farthest left candidate
> nominated for
> >>>>
> >> President
> >>
> >>>> in the history
> >>>> of the nation. He's being propped-up
> by the
> >>>>
> >> MSM which
> >>
> >>>> is pretty far left
> >>>> themselves. I hope everyone has their
> eyes open.
> >>>>
> >> I have
> >>
> >>>> my exit plan. Do
> >>>> you?
> >>>>
> >>>> Brad
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Tootle
> >>>> <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Brad:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Keep the political references coming.
> Your
> >>>>>
> >> last post
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> that had the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> reference
> >>>>> to:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://gregransom.com/prestopundit/2008/06/obama-tell-us-what-a-sacrifice.html
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> lead to a very good analysis:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDkyZTNiZDdkMTNiNzViZTYxNDU0MTY4MzMzMzNmZDU=
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I am sorry that you bought into the
> fellow
> >>>>>
> >> travelers
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> idea that compulsory
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> purchase contracts by a government
> agency is
> >>>>>
> >> the same
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> as collective
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> bargaining. In the compulsory
> contracts for
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> pharmaceuticals there just
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> might be unintended consequences.
> Small
> >>>>>
> >> unique drug
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> makers may be forced
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> not to participate resulting in their
> demise
> >>>>>
> >> because
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> of the very
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> specialized
> >>>>> uses of their products. When
> complying with
> >>>>>
> >> request
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> for lower costs, jobs
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> will be shipped overseas. One of the
> first
> >>>>>
> >> cost
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> cutting techniques of just
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> looking at the bottom line and not the
> future
> >>>>>
> >> is
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> research, which will be
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> left to foreign concerns.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In contrast, you have benefitted from
> >>>>>
> >> collective
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> bargaining where first, if
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> you did not like the contract, you had
> freedom
> >>>>>
> >> to work
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> elsewhere.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Additionally, FEDX concluded that the
> skill
> >>>>>
> >> level of
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> its employees was very
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> important to the success of its
> business
> >>>>>
> >> model.
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Additionally, detailed
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> analysis of the contracts show that
> the
> >>>>>
> >> company can
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> still make a ROI that
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> keeps it in business.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mixing the two concepts is just the
> Marxist
> >>>>>
> >> way of
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> inching away at
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> individual freedoms.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since you have unique research
> resources,
> >>>>>
> >> where is a
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> good article that
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> clearly demonstrates Obama's
> socialist
> >>>>>
> >> (for those
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> not willing to accept
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> word, Marxist) economic ideology as
> having its
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> historical roots in the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> concepts and beliefs of W.E.B. Dubois.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hopefully, Elle has been reading the
> articles
> >>>>>
> >> to the
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> point of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> comprehension.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ed K
> >>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
> >>>>> attachment:
> >>>>>
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p17645451/today.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> today.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> View this message in context:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://www.nabble.com/Brad%2C-Elle%2C-Slim%2C-et-al...-%28Big-Al-Delete%29%28Political-references%29%28Save-America-Campaign%29-tp17645451p17645451.html
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list
> archive
> >>>>>
> >> at
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Nabble.com.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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