[Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02

KUHN, LELAND LKUHN at cnmc.org
Tue Jun 17 13:04:29 EDT 2008


"I learn something new every time I go out."  If an experienced sailor
feels that way, it convinces me that I will never get bored of sailing.
Perfect total boat adjustment for all conditions would be impossible to
experience, much less learn and remember.  It's got to be one of the
easiest sports to learn and the absolute hardest to master.

I took out a calculator and started doing the math.

If you conservatively should make an adjustment for every 10 degree
directional change and every knot of wind change; and then factor in
different combinations of current, chop, headsail, mainsail,
centerboard, tiller, traveler, boom height, alcohol consumption, mast
rake, stay tention, and all standing/running rigging; then you would
need to learn and remember over 99,999,999.99 adjustments.  I don't know
how much more because my calculator maxed out.  I'm just now discovering
the impact of adjusting the loose foot of the main.

Now if I only had a boom vang.

Lee
1986 Rhodes22  At Ease
Kent Island, MD

-----Original Message-----
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com [mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:31 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02

Bill,
Learning the Rhodes22 is a wonderful experience. Forget almost
everything  
you ever knew about sailing and try sailing her with the equipment that
Stan  
puts on her. The sails have so many adjustments that it will take
several years  
until you reach a comfort level where you will want to change sails
around. 
The  175 is a great sail with many adjustments. I learn something new
every 
time I go  out. Just when I think I have it mastered, something comes up
and 
reminds me  that I still have a lot to learn. The hardest thing for me
is to go 
below and  mix a drink while still under full sails single handing. I'm
fast, 
but not quite  fast enough.
 
Rummy :)
 
 
In a message dated 6/16/2008 3:18:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
wpdavidge at gmail.com writes:

ED

I'm not sure about JIm Or Jhon But I do like to change  sails .That 's
one
of the reason I have  the Rhodes ..I'm just looking  for the Sail that
woks
Best for me .
By the way You are right  when you tell people to ck with Rummy. His
instructions  are right on  but not everyone can Sail at the same level
that
He can ,or at least I  can't ,,Yet !
Ed don't discount Your advise. It's also right on just  a little blunt
at
times .


Thanks   Bill  Davidge



On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tootle  <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:

>
> Jim:
>
>  I said, "Ask Captain Rummy for his detailed instructions and
comments."
>
> See, he gave you the best advice  yet.
>
>
> R22RumRunner wrote:
> >
> >  Jim,
> > Forget about changing sails. Order the boat with the 175  genoa and
learn
> > how
> > to adjust the sail(s) for the  conditions. Screwing around with
multiple
> > sails is a waste of  precious sailing and drinking time.
> >
> > Rummy
>  >
> > If you were a racer you would not even be asking these  questions.
So
> > follow Rummy's advice.  Get the most  versitile sail and go
sailing...
> >
> > Ed K
> >  Greenville, SC, USA
> > Addendum:  "A chicken crossing the road  is poultry in motion."
> >
> > In a message dated 6/14/2008  7:25:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > jamesldickson at aol.com  writes:
> >
> >
> > HI  Ed,
> >  Thanks for the reply -
> >
> > Mary Lou's information was  very helpful  as well - Thanks. I'm
buying the
> > boat through  Stan - 1991 recycled- should  be available at the of
the
> >  month.
> > The furler that is currently on the boat  is the GBI  Factory
Version and
> I
> > won't be looking to change Genoa  sizes  often.
> >
> > But because I sail on a lake with  summer light winds I requested  a
Genoa
> > 150. The 170 is just  too big for the lake winds I sail on - it
would be
> > reefed  in more than 75% of the time. So it needs to be made
special
>  order
> > which won't be ready by the time I'm scheduled to go down  to  pick
up the
> > boat.
> >
> > Stan is  going to give me an old 170 to take home  until the 150 can
be
>  > shipped to me. Which means I need to replace the  Genoa's. Although
I
> been
> > sailing since I was a kid. I have had the  same  ODay Javelin that
has
> been
> > in
> > our  family since 74. I have never sailed  anything larger than 19'
and
> > nothing with anytype of Furler. Just nervous  about  changing.
> >
> > I've sent an email to Stan to see if it's  too late to  change to
the CDI
> > version - this would actually  make it easier to change. I  might
even see
> > if
> >  I can purchase the old 170 from Stan for times when we  take the
boat
> > camping
> > and to the NJ Shore where there will be  more wind and  the 170
would make
> > more sense.
>  >
> > But just in case I can't get the CDI  furler on it I  want to find
out how
> > difficult it will be to make a one  time  replacement of the old 170
to my
> > new
> > 150.  Again with the understanding that  I'm by no means anytype of

master
> > sailor or great with do it yourself  repairs.
>  >
> > Thanks in advance for your advice and help.
>  >
> > Jim
> > New  rhodes owner
> >  Quakertown PA
> >
> >
> >
> >
>  >
> >
> > Tootle wrote:
> >>
> >>  JimJim02
> >>
> >> You said that you were purchasing a  Rhodes  22.  Is this from
General
> >> Boats?
>  >>
> >> As to changing  the foresale, it depends as  Mary Lou said which
furler
> >> you
> >>  have.   That is if the boat has a furler.  If you are  purchasing
that
> >> 1973
> >> that was posted for  sale, it may be a hank on.
> >>
> >>  Mary Lou  pointed out the GBI factory design, CDI, and SnapFurl.
There
>  >> are
> >> even more brands.  So if you are getting a  boat thru GBI,  call
and ask
> >> what is on the boat  now.  Stan ususally does not  change the
furler
> >>  unless
> >> it is broken.  So if the boat has an  older  CDI, that is what you
will
> >> get.
> >>
>  >> Harkin makes one of the  best system and charges  accordingly.  It

allows
> >> changing  foresales on the  run.  It allows hoisting a second sail
while
> >>  using  the first.  It even allow using two sails at the same time,
as
>  in
> >> wing on wing.
> >>
>  >> So understand, more information is  required to answer your
question.
> >> Suggest you get a three ring binder  to keep  notes of your
questions,
> >> answers and other  information.   It will get filled up quickly.
>  >>
> >> Ed K
> >> Greenville, SC,   USA
> >> Addendum:  "boltrope - strong rope stitched to edges  of a  sail"
> >>
> >
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