[Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02
Steven Alm
stevenalm at gmail.com
Wed Jun 18 02:06:08 EDT 2008
John, you're missing the point. A fresh drink should be served as a
bartender would serve it. Fresh ice, rum and mix--or whatever.
Rummy, my friend, learn to heave to. It's the best way to briefly take a
little break and do what needs to be done. Are you in a hurry or
something? It's easier than fussing with locking the tiller down and
trimming the sails perfectly so everything is balanced and you can go
below. Although I admit that's a worthy challenge.
Slim
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:04 PM, KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
>
> "I learn something new every time I go out." If an experienced sailor
> feels that way, it convinces me that I will never get bored of sailing.
> Perfect total boat adjustment for all conditions would be impossible to
> experience, much less learn and remember. It's got to be one of the
> easiest sports to learn and the absolute hardest to master.
>
> I took out a calculator and started doing the math.
>
> If you conservatively should make an adjustment for every 10 degree
> directional change and every knot of wind change; and then factor in
> different combinations of current, chop, headsail, mainsail,
> centerboard, tiller, traveler, boom height, alcohol consumption, mast
> rake, stay tention, and all standing/running rigging; then you would
> need to learn and remember over 99,999,999.99 adjustments. I don't know
> how much more because my calculator maxed out. I'm just now discovering
> the impact of adjusting the loose foot of the main.
>
> Now if I only had a boom vang.
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
> Kent Island, MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com [mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:31 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02
>
> Bill,
> Learning the Rhodes22 is a wonderful experience. Forget almost
> everything
> you ever knew about sailing and try sailing her with the equipment that
> Stan
> puts on her. The sails have so many adjustments that it will take
> several years
> until you reach a comfort level where you will want to change sails
> around.
> The 175 is a great sail with many adjustments. I learn something new
> every
> time I go out. Just when I think I have it mastered, something comes up
> and
> reminds me that I still have a lot to learn. The hardest thing for me
> is to go
> below and mix a drink while still under full sails single handing. I'm
> fast,
> but not quite fast enough.
>
> Rummy :)
>
>
> In a message dated 6/16/2008 3:18:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> wpdavidge at gmail.com writes:
>
> ED
>
> I'm not sure about JIm Or Jhon But I do like to change sails .That 's
> one
> of the reason I have the Rhodes ..I'm just looking for the Sail that
> woks
> Best for me .
> By the way You are right when you tell people to ck with Rummy. His
> instructions are right on but not everyone can Sail at the same level
> that
> He can ,or at least I can't ,,Yet !
> Ed don't discount Your advise. It's also right on just a little blunt
> at
> times .
>
>
> Thanks Bill Davidge
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > Jim:
> >
> > I said, "Ask Captain Rummy for his detailed instructions and
> comments."
> >
> > See, he gave you the best advice yet.
> >
> >
> > R22RumRunner wrote:
> > >
> > > Jim,
> > > Forget about changing sails. Order the boat with the 175 genoa and
> learn
> > > how
> > > to adjust the sail(s) for the conditions. Screwing around with
> multiple
> > > sails is a waste of precious sailing and drinking time.
> > >
> > > Rummy
> > >
> > > If you were a racer you would not even be asking these questions.
> So
> > > follow Rummy's advice. Get the most versitile sail and go
> sailing...
> > >
> > > Ed K
> > > Greenville, SC, USA
> > > Addendum: "A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion."
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/14/2008 7:25:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > jamesldickson at aol.com writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > HI Ed,
> > > Thanks for the reply -
> > >
> > > Mary Lou's information was very helpful as well - Thanks. I'm
> buying the
> > > boat through Stan - 1991 recycled- should be available at the of
> the
> > > month.
> > > The furler that is currently on the boat is the GBI Factory
> Version and
> > I
> > > won't be looking to change Genoa sizes often.
> > >
> > > But because I sail on a lake with summer light winds I requested a
> Genoa
> > > 150. The 170 is just too big for the lake winds I sail on - it
> would be
> > > reefed in more than 75% of the time. So it needs to be made
> special
> > order
> > > which won't be ready by the time I'm scheduled to go down to pick
> up the
> > > boat.
> > >
> > > Stan is going to give me an old 170 to take home until the 150 can
> be
> > > shipped to me. Which means I need to replace the Genoa's. Although
> I
> > been
> > > sailing since I was a kid. I have had the same ODay Javelin that
> has
> > been
> > > in
> > > our family since 74. I have never sailed anything larger than 19'
> and
> > > nothing with anytype of Furler. Just nervous about changing.
> > >
> > > I've sent an email to Stan to see if it's too late to change to
> the CDI
> > > version - this would actually make it easier to change. I might
> even see
> > > if
> > > I can purchase the old 170 from Stan for times when we take the
> boat
> > > camping
> > > and to the NJ Shore where there will be more wind and the 170
> would make
> > > more sense.
> > >
> > > But just in case I can't get the CDI furler on it I want to find
> out how
> > > difficult it will be to make a one time replacement of the old 170
> to my
> > > new
> > > 150. Again with the understanding that I'm by no means anytype of
>
> master
> > > sailor or great with do it yourself repairs.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for your advice and help.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > > New rhodes owner
> > > Quakertown PA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tootle wrote:
> > >>
> > >> JimJim02
> > >>
> > >> You said that you were purchasing a Rhodes 22. Is this from
> General
> > >> Boats?
> > >>
> > >> As to changing the foresale, it depends as Mary Lou said which
> furler
> > >> you
> > >> have. That is if the boat has a furler. If you are purchasing
> that
> > >> 1973
> > >> that was posted for sale, it may be a hank on.
> > >>
> > >> Mary Lou pointed out the GBI factory design, CDI, and SnapFurl.
> There
> > >> are
> > >> even more brands. So if you are getting a boat thru GBI, call
> and ask
> > >> what is on the boat now. Stan ususally does not change the
> furler
> > >> unless
> > >> it is broken. So if the boat has an older CDI, that is what you
> will
> > >> get.
> > >>
> > >> Harkin makes one of the best system and charges accordingly. It
>
> allows
> > >> changing foresales on the run. It allows hoisting a second sail
> while
> > >> using the first. It even allow using two sails at the same time,
> as
> > in
> > >> wing on wing.
> > >>
> > >> So understand, more information is required to answer your
> question.
> > >> Suggest you get a three ring binder to keep notes of your
> questions,
> > >> answers and other information. It will get filled up quickly.
> > >>
> > >> Ed K
> > >> Greenville, SC, USA
> > >> Addendum: "boltrope - strong rope stitched to edges of a sail"
> > >>
> > >
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