[Rhodes22-list] Herb's rant.

[R22RumRunner at aol.com]

Waterboarding? Is that anything like wake boarding?
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 3/31/2008 8:14:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
flybrad at gmail.com writes:

Rummy,

I'm no expert on McCain's positions but since he's  against "waterboarding" I
assume that applies to the unborn as  well.

Brad

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 8:08 AM,  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:

> Your misrepresentation of his  stand sucks Stan, and is unbecoming to
> "intelligent debate". You can  do better.
>
> Herb, speaking of being able to do  better.............just where the hell
> does McCain stand? After  reading as much as I could find, I'm still
>   confused.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> Misperceptions About  McCain's Abortion Stance
> by _Julie  Rovner_
>  (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=2101102)   (NPR)
>
>
> Many Republican voters, however, seem to  believe, incorrectly, that the
> current Republican front-runner,  Arizona Sen. John McCain, supports
> abortion
> rights,  too.
> The misperception is interesting, considering that McCain has  not
> attempted
> to keep his pro-life views a secret. Here's how  he put it on an appearance
> last  year on NBC's Meet the  Press:
> "I have stated time after time after time that Roe v Wade was a  bad
> decision, that I support a woman — the rights of the unborn — that  I have
> fought  for
> human rights and human dignity  throughout my entire political career,"
> McCain said. "To me, it's an  issue of human rights and human dignity."
> And while now former  candidate Fred Thompson, the former senator from
> Tennessee, won the  coveted endorsement from the National Right to Life
>   Committee,
> McCain's voting record on the issue is just fine, says  David O'Steen,  the
> group's executive director.
> "He's  been very consistent; he hasn't changed his position," O'Steen says.
>  He
>  says that his group has supported McCain in every one of his  senate
> races.
> "We've always considered him pro-life," he  says.
> Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, says her  group has
> always considered McCain pro-life as well. And it's not just  abortion, she
> says.
> "He voted against family planning, he  voted against the freedom of access
> to
> clinic entrances — that  was about violence against women in clinics,"
> Keenan
> says,  adding, "He voted against funding for teen pregnancy-prevention
>  programs,  and making sure that abstinence only was medically  accurate.
> This is very,
> very  extreme."
> Yet in  Florida's GOP primary on Jan. 29, McCain won 45 percent of
>  Republican
> voters who said abortion should be legal. That's nearly  twice the total of
> former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who used to  be pro-choice, but now
> says
> he has changed his mind. And  Giuliani, who says he still is pro-choice,
> received  just 19  percent of those pro-choice voters.
> NARAL's Keenan thinks it's because  voters see McCain splitting with
> Republicans on so many other issues,  they assume he must split with them
> when it
> comes to abortion  as well.
> "I think it comes back to that moderate maverick image that  he's tried to
> portray," Keenan says. "But when you peel the onion  back, the record shows
> that
> this is a guy who's been very  anti-choice since he entered the U.S. House
> of
> Representatives  back in 1983."
> Those pro-choice McCain voters may also remember the  very public feud
> McCain
> has had with the National Right to  Life Committee. But that argument
> wasn't
> over  abortion,  says the NRLC's O'Steen; it was over the campaign finance
> measure  that  McCain sponsored with Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold, a
>  Democrat.
> "The McCain-Feingold Act limited the ability of non-PACS  [political action
> committees] to even mention the name of a candidate  within 30 days of a
> primary,  or 60 days of a general election,"  O'Steen says.
> In other words, the dispute was a freedom of speech  issue.
> McCain's pro-life record isn't totally spotless: He did vote in  favor of
> expanding federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research.  But both
> pro-choice
> and pro-life groups say that if McCain  becomes the Republican nominee,
> they'll
> work hard to make sure  voters know what his abortion position really   is.
>
>
>
>
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