[Rhodes22-list] Herb's rant.

[Brad Haslett]

Rummy,

When guys my age try wake boarding it has the same effect as waterboarding.
"I'll say anything, just get my ass back on the boat!  This is torture!"

Brad

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 8:16 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:

> Waterboarding? Is that anything like wake boarding?
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 3/31/2008 8:14:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> flybrad at gmail.com writes:
>
> Rummy,
>
> I'm no expert on McCain's positions but since he's  against
> "waterboarding" I
> assume that applies to the unborn as  well.
>
> Brad
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 8:08 AM,  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Your misrepresentation of his  stand sucks Stan, and is unbecoming to
> > "intelligent debate". You can  do better.
> >
> > Herb, speaking of being able to do  better.............just where the
> hell
> > does McCain stand? After  reading as much as I could find, I'm still
> >   confused.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > Misperceptions About  McCain's Abortion Stance
> > by _Julie  Rovner_
> >  (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=2101102)   (NPR)
> >
> >
> > Many Republican voters, however, seem to  believe, incorrectly, that the
> > current Republican front-runner,  Arizona Sen. John McCain, supports
> > abortion
> > rights,  too.
> > The misperception is interesting, considering that McCain has  not
> > attempted
> > to keep his pro-life views a secret. Here's how  he put it on an
> appearance
> > last  year on NBC's Meet the  Press:
> > "I have stated time after time after time that Roe v Wade was a  bad
> > decision, that I support a woman — the rights of the unborn — that  I
> have
> > fought  for
> > human rights and human dignity  throughout my entire political career,"
> > McCain said. "To me, it's an  issue of human rights and human dignity."
> > And while now former  candidate Fred Thompson, the former senator from
> > Tennessee, won the  coveted endorsement from the National Right to Life
> >   Committee,
> > McCain's voting record on the issue is just fine, says  David O'Steen,
>  the
> > group's executive director.
> > "He's  been very consistent; he hasn't changed his position," O'Steen
> says.
> >  He
> >  says that his group has supported McCain in every one of his  senate
> > races.
> > "We've always considered him pro-life," he  says.
> > Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, says her  group has
> > always considered McCain pro-life as well. And it's not just  abortion,
> she
> > says.
> > "He voted against family planning, he  voted against the freedom of
> access
> > to
> > clinic entrances — that  was about violence against women in clinics,"
> > Keenan
> > says,  adding, "He voted against funding for teen pregnancy-prevention
> >  programs,  and making sure that abstinence only was medically
>  accurate.
> > This is very,
> > very  extreme."
> > Yet in  Florida's GOP primary on Jan. 29, McCain won 45 percent of
> >  Republican
> > voters who said abortion should be legal. That's nearly  twice the total
> of
> > former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who used to  be pro-choice, but
> now
> > says
> > he has changed his mind. And  Giuliani, who says he still is pro-choice,
> > received  just 19  percent of those pro-choice voters.
> > NARAL's Keenan thinks it's because  voters see McCain splitting with
> > Republicans on so many other issues,  they assume he must split with
> them
> > when it
> > comes to abortion  as well.
> > "I think it comes back to that moderate maverick image that  he's tried
> to
> > portray," Keenan says. "But when you peel the onion  back, the record
> shows
> > that
> > this is a guy who's been very  anti-choice since he entered the U.S.
> House
> > of
> > Representatives  back in 1983."
> > Those pro-choice McCain voters may also remember the  very public feud
> > McCain
> > has had with the National Right to  Life Committee. But that argument
> > wasn't
> > over  abortion,  says the NRLC's O'Steen; it was over the campaign
> finance
> > measure  that  McCain sponsored with Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold, a
> >  Democrat.
> > "The McCain-Feingold Act limited the ability of non-PACS  [political
> action
> > committees] to even mention the name of a candidate  within 30 days of a
> > primary,  or 60 days of a general election,"  O'Steen says.
> > In other words, the dispute was a freedom of speech  issue.
> > McCain's pro-life record isn't totally spotless: He did vote in  favor
> of
> > expanding federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research.  But both
> > pro-choice
> > and pro-life groups say that if McCain  becomes the Republican nominee,
> > they'll
> > work hard to make sure  voters know what his abortion position really
> is.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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