[Rhodes22-list] The Slippery Slope! Political - Big Al Delete -

[Brad Haslett]

Ed,

Now we begin to diverge on our analysis.  Two things Marx and Engels didn't
anticipate was the participation of the proletariat in capitalism (the small
shareholder and entrepreneur) and the rise of labor unions. Organized labor
got a bad rap for their close association with socialism and communism in
the 30's and 40's, often deserved.  That said, I'm a shareholder, an
entrepreneur, and a proud member of a labor union, and at ease with all
three.  Regarding heath care, people need to be shareholders (you are
responsible for holding down costs).  There is no shortage of
entrepreneurial efforts, ala, WalMart pharmacies and walk-in clinics,
electronic medical billing companies, etc.  Collective bargaining for drugs
is not in itself a bad thing as long as both parties are free to walk away
from the table.  When the government is the ONLY party at the table, THAT is
the problem.  We can solve this issue.

Vote for me - all about hope and change.  My bumper sticker is going to
read, "I HOPE YOU CHANGE TO MY WAY OF THINKING!"

Brad

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:

>
>
> It was said on this forum, "That, sir, is a strong argument for collective
> bargaining in a capitalist economy.  Sort of a socialist-capitalist
> amalgam
> where everybody wins.  Almost funny, wouldn't you say?"
>
> I would it is sad that a mature American understands so little about
> economics, bureaucracy and freedom.
>
> The poster believes that a woman can be a little bit pregnant?  Socialism
> is
> a system that creates a bureaucracy.  Sometime a bureaucrat can be honest,
> but eventually a tyrant gets in.  Joseph Stalin is a good example.  As a
> functionary he did his job, when he got his chance he was evil.
>
> The poster has this thing about a basic medical benefits plan controlled
> by
> the government.  His argue is that it would be good to provide a floor of
> basic care and there are other examples of the government already
> providing
> benefits.
>
> His argument belies that the example he reported on was cosmetic surgery,
> not life threatening.  I would agree that it would be nice for the young
> lady to have corrective cosmetic surgery.  I ask why the poster did not
> berate the news paper for just reporting and not asking for a 'sunshine
> fund' to pay for the surgery?
>
> I also question the facts of the report.  Cosmetic surgery of the type
> describe can be done under conscious sedation at certain doctors offices.
> Why didn't the poster volunteer to find such a doctor willing to do the
> procedure on an out patient basis.  Surely, the complainer can do some
> community service and not expect the government to do everything.  From
> all
> that the poster has said in the past, he is capable of organizing such a
> project.  And I believe he would feel good about himself to boot.
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
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