[Rhodes22-list] political: CNN Poll Finds Rhodes 22 Owner As #1 Political Irritant

[Thena Carville]

And here I thought it was a one eyed idiot....go figure...
Thena



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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] political: CNN Poll Finds Rhodes 22 Owner As #1
Political Irritant

Boy... all you folks that "know so much", and you have to have simple 
things like that answered.

It's the dot, over in i. Sort of like a jdot, but differentimicated.

Hank wrote:
> Brad,
>
> What's an idot?
>
> Hank <grin>
>
>
> On 5/5/08, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Pete,
>>
>> I'm learning from Rummy about the new rules.
>>
>> You're an idot!
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 2:13 PM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Just got back from 3 day cruise in the florida keys. It was awesome.
>>>       
>> Then,
>>     
>>> Herb, I saw your posts. You ask me for my sources (verbally denigrating
>>>       
>> me
>>     
>>> and doubting that I even have them). Then when I give them to you, you
>>> don't
>>> like them or go "so what". It seems as if you are just going to hide
>>> behind
>>> the 3 monkeys rule and regurgitate your views (while acting like you are
>>> the
>>> only one without an agenda-laughable by itself).
>>>
>>> I don;t know what it means that the troops supported Ron Paul as their
>>> number one candidate. I just thought  it was interesting that they did.
>>> Don't you think it's interesting that they supported a fringe candidate
>>> like
>>> him? It's open for discussion. But it's true as I said it was. Why, why,
>>> why.
>>>
>>> When ANY politician hides their past records it is a red flag for
>>>       
>> concern.
>>     
>>> Lack of transparency in politics is the road to ALL evils. And again it
>>>       
>> is
>>     
>>> a
>>> fact that Bush made his service records confidential. Why, why why.
>>>
>>> You are not up to date on the illegality of Bushes DOMESTIC wiretapping.
>>>  Or
>>> again you are hiding behind the 3 monkeys rule (see no..hear no.. speak
>>> no..
>>> about Bush). And yes I am doing something about it as a supporting
>>>       
>> member
>>     
>>> of
>>> IMPEACHBUSH.ORG. However, I have made it clear that if Bush is caught in
>>>       
>> a
>>     
>>> proper sex scandal I will immediately drop my membership.
>>>
>>> data for all your illegal domestic wiretapping reading needs:
>>> http://thewall.civiblog.org/rsf/house_nsabrief_docs_012006.html
>>>
>>> 1) "Now, I want to be absolutely clear. What the President ordered in
>>>       
>> this
>>     
>>> case was a crime.... and we have to deal with that as citizens and,
>>> unfortunately, You have to deal with that as Members of Congress....Now,
>>> Members that stay silent are making a choice.  Very few Members have
>>>       
>> faced
>>     
>>> this type of test of Faith.  But You are facing it now, and as Citizens
>>> and
>>> as Members, it's now up to us.  We are called to account to the many
>>> benefits that we have gotten from this system. We are called to account
>>>       
>> to
>>     
>>> do something, and not to remain silent."
>>> Jonathan Turley
>>> Professor of Constitutional Law,
>>> George Washington University
>>>
>>> 2) "...so indiscriminate and sweeping a scheme of domestic intrusion
>>>       
>> into
>>     
>>> the private communications of American citizens, predicated entirely on
>>> the
>>> unchecked judgment of the Executive Branch, violates the Fourth
>>>       
>> Amendment
>>     
>>> 'right of the people to be secure . . . against unreasonable searches
>>>       
>> and
>>     
>>> seizures' even if it otherwise represents an exercise of constitutional
>>> power entrusted to the President by Article II or delegated to the
>>> President
>>> by Congress in exercising its powers under Article I......the argument
>>> goes... Invasion of that citizen's privacy was, alas, but one of war's
>>>       
>> sad
>>     
>>> side effects - a species of collateral damage. The technical legal term
>>> for
>>> that, I believe, is poppycock. "
>>>
>>> Laurence H. Tribe
>>> Professor of Constitutional Law
>>> Harvard University
>>>
>>> 3) "...it is not simply a claim that the President has the sole power to
>>> decide which laws to violate and when to go outside the judicial power,
>>> but
>>> that he has the power to do so in secret....until the New York Times
>>> reviewed this program, he withheld the fact from the American people
>>>       
>> that
>>     
>>> his view was that FISA did not limit his powers.  He secretly believed
>>> that
>>> he had broader authority than was laid out in the public statutes, but
>>>       
>> he
>>     
>>> withheld and misled the American people about that view of his own
>>> powers......examine what kind of misleading statements, if not
>>>       
>> deception,
>>     
>>> were put before the Congress in connection with this"
>>> Kate Martin
>>> Director
>>> Center for National Security Studies
>>>
>>> 4) "...when Congress enacted the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
>>>       
>> in
>>     
>>> 1978, it expressly rejected the President's claim of inherent authority
>>>       
>> to
>>     
>>> conduct warrantless wiretaps. It then went further and made it a crime
>>>       
>> to
>>     
>>> conduct such wiretaps. The President has acted contrary to the express
>>> will
>>> of the Congress. The Supreme Court has never approved a claim of
>>> presidential authority to authorize acts outlawed by the Congress."
>>>
>>> Kate Martin
>>> Director
>>> Center for National Security Studies
>>>
>>> 5) "...under his interpretation ... he could suspend the writ of habeas
>>> corpus, ... saying: This authorization enabled me to do anything in
>>> furtherance of the war effort. I can suspend the writ of habeas corpus
>>> unilaterally even though Congress hasn't ...He could authorize breaking
>>> and
>>> entering of homes in order to secure intelligence to fight the war
>>>       
>> against
>>     
>>> terrorism, despite the fact that there is an authorized procedure in an
>>> amendment to FISA that governs physical searches......the principle that
>>> the
>>> President has established here, if gone unchecked, will, as Justice
>>>       
>> Robert
>>     
>>> Jackson said, lie around like a loaded gun and be utilized by any future
>>> incumbent who claims a need. And the history of power teaches us one
>>> thing,
>>> that if it's unchecked, it will be abused."
>>>
>>> Bruce Fein
>>> Deputy Assistant Attorney General
>>> Reagan Administration
>>>
>>> 6) "In each case the president's answer has been the same ... Courts and
>>> Congress have little or no place to question his decisions....it is
>>> nonetheless a dangerous path for our nation. Our laws provide ample
>>>       
>> tools
>>     
>>> for fighting terrorism without eroding basic liberties. No one, not even
>>>       
>> a
>>     
>>> wartime president, is above the law"
>>> Michael S. Greco
>>> President,  American Bar Association
>>>
>>>
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