[Rhodes22-list] political: CNN Poll Finds Rhodes 22 Owner As #1 Political Irritant
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Mon May 5 16:17:44 EDT 2008
In the computer tech industry, we used to have a code for stupid issues
and those that bring them up. I.D. TEN-T
Of course, it made more sense if you wrote it out:
ID10T
Thena Carville wrote:
> And here I thought it was a one eyed idiot....go figure...
> Thena
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Herb Parsons
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:08 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] political: CNN Poll Finds Rhodes 22 Owner As #1
> Political Irritant
>
> Boy... all you folks that "know so much", and you have to have simple
> things like that answered.
>
> It's the dot, over in i. Sort of like a jdot, but differentimicated.
>
> Hank wrote:
>
>> Brad,
>>
>> What's an idot?
>>
>> Hank <grin>
>>
>>
>> On 5/5/08, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Pete,
>>>
>>> I'm learning from Rummy about the new rules.
>>>
>>> You're an idot!
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 2:13 PM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just got back from 3 day cruise in the florida keys. It was awesome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Then,
>>>
>>>
>>>> Herb, I saw your posts. You ask me for my sources (verbally denigrating
>>>>
>>>>
>>> me
>>>
>>>
>>>> and doubting that I even have them). Then when I give them to you, you
>>>> don't
>>>> like them or go "so what". It seems as if you are just going to hide
>>>> behind
>>>> the 3 monkeys rule and regurgitate your views (while acting like you are
>>>> the
>>>> only one without an agenda-laughable by itself).
>>>>
>>>> I don;t know what it means that the troops supported Ron Paul as their
>>>> number one candidate. I just thought it was interesting that they did.
>>>> Don't you think it's interesting that they supported a fringe candidate
>>>> like
>>>> him? It's open for discussion. But it's true as I said it was. Why, why,
>>>> why.
>>>>
>>>> When ANY politician hides their past records it is a red flag for
>>>>
>>>>
>>> concern.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Lack of transparency in politics is the road to ALL evils. And again it
>>>>
>>>>
>>> is
>>>
>>>
>>>> a
>>>> fact that Bush made his service records confidential. Why, why why.
>>>>
>>>> You are not up to date on the illegality of Bushes DOMESTIC wiretapping.
>>>> Or
>>>> again you are hiding behind the 3 monkeys rule (see no..hear no.. speak
>>>> no..
>>>> about Bush). And yes I am doing something about it as a supporting
>>>>
>>>>
>>> member
>>>
>>>
>>>> of
>>>> IMPEACHBUSH.ORG. However, I have made it clear that if Bush is caught in
>>>>
>>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>
>>>> proper sex scandal I will immediately drop my membership.
>>>>
>>>> data for all your illegal domestic wiretapping reading needs:
>>>> http://thewall.civiblog.org/rsf/house_nsabrief_docs_012006.html
>>>>
>>>> 1) "Now, I want to be absolutely clear. What the President ordered in
>>>>
>>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>
>>>> case was a crime.... and we have to deal with that as citizens and,
>>>> unfortunately, You have to deal with that as Members of Congress....Now,
>>>> Members that stay silent are making a choice. Very few Members have
>>>>
>>>>
>>> faced
>>>
>>>
>>>> this type of test of Faith. But You are facing it now, and as Citizens
>>>> and
>>>> as Members, it's now up to us. We are called to account to the many
>>>> benefits that we have gotten from this system. We are called to account
>>>>
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>
>>>> do something, and not to remain silent."
>>>> Jonathan Turley
>>>> Professor of Constitutional Law,
>>>> George Washington University
>>>>
>>>> 2) "...so indiscriminate and sweeping a scheme of domestic intrusion
>>>>
>>>>
>>> into
>>>
>>>
>>>> the private communications of American citizens, predicated entirely on
>>>> the
>>>> unchecked judgment of the Executive Branch, violates the Fourth
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Amendment
>>>
>>>
>>>> 'right of the people to be secure . . . against unreasonable searches
>>>>
>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>
>>>> seizures' even if it otherwise represents an exercise of constitutional
>>>> power entrusted to the President by Article II or delegated to the
>>>> President
>>>> by Congress in exercising its powers under Article I......the argument
>>>> goes... Invasion of that citizen's privacy was, alas, but one of war's
>>>>
>>>>
>>> sad
>>>
>>>
>>>> side effects - a species of collateral damage. The technical legal term
>>>> for
>>>> that, I believe, is poppycock. "
>>>>
>>>> Laurence H. Tribe
>>>> Professor of Constitutional Law
>>>> Harvard University
>>>>
>>>> 3) "...it is not simply a claim that the President has the sole power to
>>>> decide which laws to violate and when to go outside the judicial power,
>>>> but
>>>> that he has the power to do so in secret....until the New York Times
>>>> reviewed this program, he withheld the fact from the American people
>>>>
>>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>>
>>>> his view was that FISA did not limit his powers. He secretly believed
>>>> that
>>>> he had broader authority than was laid out in the public statutes, but
>>>>
>>>>
>>> he
>>>
>>>
>>>> withheld and misled the American people about that view of his own
>>>> powers......examine what kind of misleading statements, if not
>>>>
>>>>
>>> deception,
>>>
>>>
>>>> were put before the Congress in connection with this"
>>>> Kate Martin
>>>> Director
>>>> Center for National Security Studies
>>>>
>>>> 4) "...when Congress enacted the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
>>>>
>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>
>>>> 1978, it expressly rejected the President's claim of inherent authority
>>>>
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>
>>>> conduct warrantless wiretaps. It then went further and made it a crime
>>>>
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>
>>>> conduct such wiretaps. The President has acted contrary to the express
>>>> will
>>>> of the Congress. The Supreme Court has never approved a claim of
>>>> presidential authority to authorize acts outlawed by the Congress."
>>>>
>>>> Kate Martin
>>>> Director
>>>> Center for National Security Studies
>>>>
>>>> 5) "...under his interpretation ... he could suspend the writ of habeas
>>>> corpus, ... saying: This authorization enabled me to do anything in
>>>> furtherance of the war effort. I can suspend the writ of habeas corpus
>>>> unilaterally even though Congress hasn't ...He could authorize breaking
>>>> and
>>>> entering of homes in order to secure intelligence to fight the war
>>>>
>>>>
>>> against
>>>
>>>
>>>> terrorism, despite the fact that there is an authorized procedure in an
>>>> amendment to FISA that governs physical searches......the principle that
>>>> the
>>>> President has established here, if gone unchecked, will, as Justice
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jackson said, lie around like a loaded gun and be utilized by any future
>>>> incumbent who claims a need. And the history of power teaches us one
>>>> thing,
>>>> that if it's unchecked, it will be abused."
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Fein
>>>> Deputy Assistant Attorney General
>>>> Reagan Administration
>>>>
>>>> 6) "In each case the president's answer has been the same ... Courts and
>>>> Congress have little or no place to question his decisions....it is
>>>> nonetheless a dangerous path for our nation. Our laws provide ample
>>>>
>>>>
>>> tools
>>>
>>>
>>>> for fighting terrorism without eroding basic liberties. No one, not even
>>>>
>>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>
>>>> wartime president, is above the law"
>>>> Michael S. Greco
>>>> President, American Bar Association
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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