[Rhodes22-list] This day in history

Brad Haslett flybrad at gmail.com
Mon May 5 19:01:20 EDT 2008


Slim,

Forgive me if I've said this already.  Have Hillary give one unit of her
testicular fortitude units to Obama,  that makes her and MacBoy two to one
over him while Michelle totes his around in her purse.  God please don't
strike me dead - Hill looks really good with the right lighting and Bill in
the background sans the intern with the pretty lips. Slim,  if we both vote
for the same candidate for President, I'll fly to MSP and we'll party like
it is 1999. I can get a cheap room at the Marriott  Target Center and the
meal is on me!

Stranger things have happened!

Brad

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brad,
>
> Myself, I'm off the Obama bandwagon and back on the fence.
> Yes, I'm enjoying my dinner--on the rocks.
>
> Slim
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Slim,
> >
> > You can't insult people who don't pay attention, er, pilots.  What if we
> > were able to dig-up all the dead presidents and test their IQ?  What
> > difference would it make?  History will measure 43 based on 9/11 forward
> > and
> > my prediction is - history will be kind in the long run in the long war.
> > We'll see.
> >
> > Just like the play Annie, "Tomorrow, Tomorrow, There's Always Tomorrow,
> > Tomorrow's a Brand New Day".  Who's the best to  take the leading role
> in
> > the next act?  Slim, sit down!  I' m not promising anything but for the
> > first time I'm not vomiting about the thought of voting for Hillary.
> >
> > Have a nice dinner and digest that!
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Brad,
> > >
> > > In the back of my head I was afraid I might insult the pilots.  Not my
> > > intention.  And you're right, I can't assess the difficulty of flying.
> > >  Er,
> > > I mean flying a supersonic fighter jet.
> > >
> > > The question was if Bush is the dumbest to hold the office.  Has there
> > > been
> > > anyone dumber to hold that office?  Herb wants to make a rhetorical
> > > argument
> > > between "average" and "dumb" and I say that if you're the least
> > > intelligent
> > > to hold office, then that statement is true.
> > >
> > > You say that education don't mean shit.  Do you really mean that?
>  Sorry
> > > yours was so useless.  Frankly I value mine.   And I include the
> school
> > of
> > > hard knocks in my resume.
> > >
> > > Slim
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Slim,
> > > >
> > > > You can do better!
> > > >
> > > > "Steve of Minneapolis, never achieved fame as a musician, and was
> > > > therefore
> > > > condemned to the 'dustbin of history' as a 'near-do-well'."  Stick
> to
> > > > judging musicians and I'll stick to telling you who can fly and who
> > > > "caint".
> > > >
> > > > I'll answer the pilot question for you.  You don't survive flying
> that
> > > > deathtrap without being a "good stick".  A lot of his peers didn't.
> > >  Some
> > > > were shot down in Vietnam but most who died didn't survive the
> > > instability
> > > > of that beast in training and routine missions. Try again!
> > > >
> > > > "He failed in the oil business".  Slim, you are blowing smoke out
> your
> > > ass
> > > > about your knowledge of the oil business and W's experience with the
> > oil
> > > > business.  Put your facts on the line and I'll shoot them down like
> > > > squirrels in the back yard.  Stick to what you know.  W was very
> > > > successful
> > > > at finding oil.  You try making a profit at $11 bucks a barrel when
> > lift
> > > > costs are  $18.
> > > >
> > > > I don't have an MBA from Harvard but do sup with folks who do, also,
> > > > people
> > > > who have PHd's in hard science from Stanford.  That's impressive but
> > not
> > > > that impressive.  "Education don't mean shit!"
> > > >
> > > > Why are we having this conversation?  The 'accurate' history on the
> > 43rd
> > > > President won't be written for another 50 years.  In the meantime,
> we
> > > have
> > > > to pick another one.  As one pundit said today, "Hillary has shown a
> > lot
> > > > of
> > > > testicular fortitude, maybe she can loan one of hers to Obama so he
> > can
> > > > have
> > > > half as many as Hill and Johnny Mack since his are carried around in
> > > > Michelle's purse"
> > > >
> > > > W is history.  MoveOn.org.
> > > >
> > > > Brad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You can quote me on that BTW.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Re Bush is a dumb ass.  To illustrate my point I'll mention my
> > > > > sister-in-law
> > > > > is an anthropology professor, PhD, Fulbright Scholar and one of
> the
> > > most
> > > > > intelligent people I know, taught at Yale for a number of years.
> >  She
> > > > said
> > > > > the students who came through were pushy, demanding and full of
> > > > > entitlement.  In other words, snotty, rich brats.  She did not say
> > > they
> > > > > were
> > > > > all smart.  Presumably they were not all dummies either.  Like
> > > > everything
> > > > > else, some are high on the scale and some not so much.  She now
> > > teaches
> > > > > back
> > > > > home here in Minnesota and guess what?  Her students here read the
> > > same
> > > > > books, are assigned the same homework, write the same term papers,
> > > held
> > > > to
> > > > > the same standards and are graded under the same scrutiny as her
> > > > students
> > > > > at
> > > > > Yale.  No teachers dumb down their work because they're NOT at an
> > ivy
> > > > > league
> > > > > school.  Conversely we can conclude that students at Yale are not
> > > > > necessarily put through any more rigor than those at the
> University
> > of
> > > > > Minnesota.  Because Bush graduated from an ivy league school with
> a
> > C
> > > > > average does not mean he's smart.  Take away his daddy and all
> that
> > > > money
> > > > > and privilege and all those connections and Georgie graduates with
> a
> > C
> > > > > average from North Texas State instead.
> > > > >
> > > > > He was a pilot.  I'm not, but again I presume it's like everything
> > > else.
> > > > > Some are high on the scale and some not so much.  I'll defer to
> the
> > > > pilots
> > > > > here on the Rhodes list:  is it possible for a man with average
> > > > > intelligence
> > > > > to learn to fly?  I'm sure he worked hard to learn and by no means
> > do
> > > I
> > > > > belittle the rigor of flight training, but I know there's a big
> > > > difference
> > > > > between being a reserve pilot and an ace.  I don't recall hearing
> > > > anything
> > > > > about him winning any awards, honors, medals or any great success
> > > flying
> > > > > any
> > > > > dangerous missions.  He saw no combat.  In fact it's rumored that
> he
> > > > went
> > > > > AWOL.  I know that's only rumor but I'm unaware of any evidence
> that
> > > he
> > > > > distinguished himself as a great pilot either.  I don't see how
> his
> > > > > (questionable) service record qualifies him as any genius.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think a better measure of a man's intelligence is the man
> himself.
> > > >  How
> > > > > he
> > > > > presents himself, how he writes (Bush is the first and only
> > president
> > > > > whose
> > > > > never published anything) how he speaks (the poor guy can barely
> put
> > a
> > > > > sentence together) and his decision-making.  hmmmmm...
> > > > >
> > > > > He failed in the oil business.  Not sure how he did with the Texas
> > > > Rangers
> > > > > but they didn't win any championships.  What good is this guy,
> > really?
> > > > > What's to like?  Herb likes that he does what he says he's going
> to
> > > do.
> > > > > Well, he said he would bring the perpetrators of 9-11 to justice.
> > > >  Hasn't
> > > > > happened.  Instead, looks what a mess created in the middle east.
> > >  He's
> > > > > getting everybody EXCEPT the perps.
> > > > >
> > > > > I do respect the office of president but I don't see one shred of
> > > > evidence
> > > > > that this guy is any smarter than the average shmuck and that's
> just
> > > not
> > > > > good enough to be president.  He's not smart--he's lucky.  Again,
> > take
> > > > > away
> > > > > Daddy and is he still the president?  Not in a million years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Slim
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Rummy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don't forget the business cycle - what goes around comes around!
> >  I
> > > > > cashed
> > > > > > in some of my international chips to buy my airplane (worse than
> > > boats
> > > > > for
> > > > > > money pits, definitely not investing).  Commodities are at a 200
> > > year
> > > > > high
> > > > > > because of demand from India and China.  They have their own
> cycle
> > > as
> > > > > > well.
> > > > > > China has significant problems to face down the road and can't
> > keep
> > > > the
> > > > > > current pace going forever.  I manage a pretty good chunk of
> > change
> > > > for
> > > > > a
> > > > > > Chinese investor (who has a similar education as mine, an
> > accounting
> > > > > > degree
> > > > > > in China with a US MBA from a high profile school) in US
> > muni-bonds
> > > -
> > > > > same
> > > > > > deal as you in reverse.  It's all in the eyes of the beholder.
> If
> > I
> > > > knew
> > > > > > where the market was going to be in a year I'd be out shopping
> for
> > a
> > > > > > Gulfstream instead of busting knuckles on an old Bonanza.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brad
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 6:42 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brad,
> > > > > > > The code isn't difficult to break. Just take a look at the
> > global
> > > > > > economy
> > > > > > > and see who and where the money is being spent. Natural
> > resources
> > > > such
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > steel
> > > > > > > as an example. China and India are buying steel at an
> incredible
> > > > rate.
> > > > > > > Then
> > > > > > > there is the shipping company's and the company's that build
> the
> > > > > ships.
> > > > > > > Enough
> > > > > > >  said.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rummy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In a message dated 5/5/2008 7:34:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight
> Time,
> > > > > > > flybrad at gmail.com writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rummy,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Congrats!  You broke the code.  In the long  run, the US
> economy
> > > is
> > > > a
> > > > > > safe
> > > > > > > bet but I've been about a third vested in  international for
> > over
> > > a
> > > > > > decade
> > > > > > > and it's worked out as a good hedge.   The dollar just started
> > > > moving
> > > > > up
> > > > > > > against the euro last week and traders  are placing their bets
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > > dollar's rise.  Defining exactly what is  international isn't
> > > > exactly
> > > > > > > easy.
> > > > > > > My employer does business worldwide, same  as GE, Boeing, etc.
> > >  Good
> > > > > > luck.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brad
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, May 5, 2008 at  6:26 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brad,
> > > > > > > > The  answer to where my investments are held is that they
> are
> > > not
> > > > in
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > >  country. Our economy is way to unstable at this time.
> > > > > > > > I am invested in  international company's.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rummy
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In a  message dated 5/4/2008 9:52:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight
> > Time,
> > > > > > > >  flybrad at gmail.com writes:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Earth to   Frone,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Did you catch the snippet from Rummy the other day that  his
> > > > > > >  investments
> > > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > doing well?  You think he  invested in Castro's Cuba  or the
> > > > country
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > dumbass Bush  destroyed?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brad
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sun, May  4, 2008 at  8:13 PM, <FCrawford0707 at aol.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  >  In a message dated 5/3/2008 8:28:50 A.M. Eastern
> Daylight
> > > >  Time,
> > > > > > > > >  R22RumRunner at aol.com writes:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  > Herb,
> > > > > > > > > This isn't about me  or my mother. This is a  discussion
> > about
> > > > >  the
> > > > > > > > dumbest
> > > > > > > > > SOB
> > > > > > > > >   that has ever taken the oath of office. I didn't  call
> you
> > > on
> > > > > > >  breaking
> > > > > > > >  the
> > > > > > > > > rules, that was someone else.
> > > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > > > >  Rummy
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  > Rummy - good for you to have the guts to  say it as it
> is.
> > > > > > Although
> > > > > > > >  there
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > more to it  than  dumb - Bush has done so much damage to
> our
> > > > > country
> > > > > > >  in
> > > > > > > >  a
> > > > > > > > >  mere
> > > > > > > > > 8 years that one wonders if he could  have been worse had
> >  he
> > > > >  been
> > > > > > > > trying
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >  > damage us.  It is hard to find a single  policy  that
> >  favors
> > > > the
> > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > country over   whatever special interest he happened  to
> > favor
> > > > on
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > given
> > > > > > > >  >  day.
> > > > > > > > > Then there was the "proclamation" that if  you
>  "considered
> > "
> > > > > >  sailing
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > Cuba,
> > > > > > > > > your  boat was subject to  confiscation.   Thanks for your
> > > > candor
> > > > > -
> > > > > > >  Bush
> > > > > > > > > will  be
> > > > > > > > > ranked either just above or just  below   Buchanan.
> > > > > > > > >        Frone  Crawford
> > > > > > > > >   s/v Sunday  Morning
> > > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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