[Rhodes22-list] The end of the Rove era -- Political
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Tue Nov 4 16:04:14 EST 2008
Brad,
The funny thing is I hear folks like that talk from the "intellectual"
viewpoint, while others actually live the hope. I have a black nephew
named after me. My stepfather is a Mexican national that "came here
illegally and worked his ass off for a few years" and then decided to
take the government up on their last amnesty plan. I have nieces and
nephews that I love and care for that are Chinese, Korean, Black,
Mexican, and a few (not many) that are 100% Anglo (as far as we can
tell). My brother and sister are half-Polish born with the surname
Czuprewicz that removed any doubt as to their ancestry. My view is that
f you can't have fun with that stuff, then you have a problem.
And yes, the country still has a problem. We'll get over it.
Someday, possibly in my lifetime, you won't be able to look at a person
and easily discern their ancestry. Then, if they look at a chimp, maybe
you'll be allowed to make a joke and laugh.
Brad Haslett wrote:
> David,
>
> The African American community is not a monolithic block either. The
> blacks (sorry, I'm a pilot and we always go for the shortest version
> of almost everything) that I work with and am friends with put country
> first. They consider themselves just Americans. If you ask my wife
> what she is, she would first ask, "race or citizenship?"
>
> Who's the most aggrieved in America? Former slaves? The Irish? Jews?
> Chinese? Pick an aggrieved community. Get over it. You are not
> going to save the world. Penniless Mexicans come here illegally and
> work their asses off for a few years and go home to their families.
> Get a grip on reality.
>
> This PC bullshit has gone on long enough! Some day when my
> Irish/German/English/ and half slant-eyed daughter is old enough to
> spar I'll let her explain it to you!
>
> Enough with the victim politics! Give it a rest!
>
> Brad
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:44 AM, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think the reaction wouldn't come from the left, it would come from
>> the African American Community, and it would be well justified. There
>> are lines that even satirists don't cross if they want to stay in
>> business - ask Don Imus. I know you think it is a cultural thing. I
>> would call it a social thing.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Might be a big day for me on making bets - What do you think would be
>>> the left wing reaction (if he DOES get elected) the first time there's a
>>> comparison to chimps similar to what was done with Bush (which I thought
>>> was hilarious, BTW) ?
>>>
>>>
>>> JbTek wrote:
>>>
>>>> ya, "Bush bashing is fun" will turn into "Obama bashing is fun", then
>>>> the other side will cry about Americans "not getting behind there
>>>> President".
>>>> Jb
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:03 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] The end of the Rove era -- Political
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Herb,
>>>>> Once again you label someone without knowing anything about them. If
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> someone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> even says anything that you find contrary to your beliefs, you label them
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> liberal. I am sorry that you walk through life with blinders on. There is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> whole world out there to experience.
>>>>> Now that today is the election day, I for one would hope that the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> political
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> chit chat would slow down a bit, but that's just wishful thinking. If
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Obama
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> wins, the right wing republicans will stop at nothing to bash him for the
>>>>> next four years. If McCain wins it will be four more years of bashing him.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> As I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> see it, nobody is going to win. Same crap, different day and non of it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> amounts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> to anything anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 11/4/2008 11:58:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>> hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't blame you a bit. If I were a left-wing liberal, I'd want the
>>>>> same thing. Being of the opposite persuasion, I'm hoping she's around a
>>>>> while to bring some real change.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Herb,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not a gambling person and I don't much care for politics or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> politicians.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> My hope is that Palin will disappear into the sunset just like Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> Quale
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> did.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a message dated 11/4/2008 11:09:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>>> hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you not see how self-conflicting your statements are? McCain is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> left
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> of the middle. If he "lurches" right, he moves TOWARDS the middle, not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> away.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't place many bets that are not sure things, but here's one I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> will.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> $100 says that Palin successfully runs for national public office,
>>>>>> maintaining a conservative right agenda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wanna put our money where your mouth is?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lowe, Rob wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>>> Thanks for the story. I certainly agree with it. I do think
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> McCain's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> lurch towards the right hurt him. We'll have to await the final
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> results
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> to see if it's true or not. I do agree his pick of Palin may have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> cost
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> McCain the election by alienating the middle. I recall after the
>>>>>>> convention he floated the name of Tom Ridge as his running mate, but
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> base recoiled due to Ridge being pro life. Tom Ridge may have helped
>>>>>>> him win Pennsylvania, which is so critical to McCain's chances. So
>>>>>>> McCain was stuck trying to pick a running mate that appealed to the
>>>>>>> base, which was Palin. Problem was it drove the middle away. With
>>>>>>> Palin's approval ratings in the teens and her disapproval ratings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> over
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> 50%, it's certainly not helping McCain. If you have the CNN story,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> I'll
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> read it. - rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> Bradley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:51 PM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The end of the Rove era -- Political
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think this in an interesting piece which reinforces what I've been
>>>>>>> saying about the importance of the middle of the political spectrum.
>>>>>>> A similar article on CNN.com over the weekend about how Sarah Palin
>>>>>>> may have cost McCain and herself the election by alienating the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>> middle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> - I can send that link if anyone wants it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15177.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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