[Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only ...
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Mon Nov 10 08:36:03 EST 2008
C'mon now, if a guy wants to get bent out of shape over being born on a
reservation and his treatment of the "Injuns" by "the white man", then
can't spell the tribe's name, I say an exception is certainly in order.
R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> Herb,
> At one time we had a list member named Steve who had a problem with spelling
> and grammar. At that time it was determined that spelling and grammatical
> errors were not fair game. It simply would have been to easy.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 11/10/2008 1:27:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>
> My my Slim, little overboard there, aren't you?
>
> Nah, I don't REALLY want to put my 1099 up. I figured John would bow
> out. He did.
> You missed the percentage, by a considerable amount.
> I don't belong to a fundamentalist church.
> The church I belong to doesn't really tell me to do much of anything.
> I've been there a while, they know that telling me what to do doesn't
> work well
> Probably about 1/2 of what we give to charity goes to our local church.
> There are several other entities that we give to as well.
> Cheerleader? Wow. Because I ride with a group of guys that pay their
> respects at funerals? And you call ME "a bore".
>
> I think if you'll reread my post, I never said anything similar to "the
> white man didn't take it away from them". As a matter of fact, I think I
> said just the opposite. They were defeated by a stronger enemy. Look a
> little closer to home for the idiot.
>
> I don't care to kiss your ass, not really into that, but feel free to
> invite what guys you can find that are. And, I don't care where you were
> born, you're still an idiot. If you were born on the Sisseton
> reservation in SD, I'd figure you'd at least know the tribe was Sisseton
> not Sissiton.
>
> And, I never said anything about fences, but some tribes most definitely
> had concepts of "land ownership". They defended their hunting grounds
> against other tribes as fiercely as the white man defended their fences.
> Two cultures clashed, the more advanced of the two prevailed.
>
> But, it's a moot point. I was talking about the founding fathers, not
> the "white man" in general. The founding fathers were not involved in
> breaking treaties, decimation of tribes, or the spreading of smallpox.
> South Dakota was the still the mostly unexplored frontier, and I don't
> think they (the founding fathers) had much exposure to the Sisseton tribe.
>
> And none of that has anything to do with John's stupid statement about a
> "final solution".
>
> I don't have much in the way of charity or compassion for folks that are
> long since gone. Not much I can do for them.
>
>
> Steven Alm wrote:
>
>> Herb,
>>
>> Do you have any idea how much you sound like you're talking out your ass?
>> Do you really want to put up your 1099 to show off what you've donated to
>> charity? You're such a bore. I'm going to guess that maybe you tithe a
>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church because they tell you to--out of
>> false compassion. And the money goes to your church--not anything real.
>>
> Or
>
>> at best a small percentage. I know you donate your time riding your
>> motorcycle around for stuff but is that actually giving? You're a
>> cheerleader. Great.
>>
>> As for the Native Americans you don't seem to have a grasp on history.
>>
> Just
>
>> because the Injuns didn't have a concept of land ownership or fences
>>
> doesn't
>
>> mean the white man didn't take it away from them. You're an idiot. The
>> Indians were living in the stone-age and were decimated by the white man
>>
> out
>
>> of greed and arrogance. There was no need for that. To say that they
>> simply met a stronger enemy completely usurps all that compassion and
>> charity that you espouse. You're full of shit! I was born on the Sissiton
>> reservation in South Dakota and you can kiss my ass!
>>
>> Slim
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> "John,"
>>> (at least you are capable of starting a post properly by addressing me by
>>> name. I assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see you're simply
>>> rude.
>>>
>>> "Go screw yourself."
>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore perhaps you could send a pic of how
>>> you accomplish it yourself.)
>>>
>>> "I've never offered anything like a ""final solution"".
>>> You're reference reveals you for what you are."
>>>
>>> (you have no clue as to who or what I am)
>>>
>>> As far as me "detesting" anyone, you again speak from total ignorance.
>>> I'll make a deal with you though, I'll make my tax returns for the last
>>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity if you'll
>>> do the same.
>>>
>>> (Do you recall the parable of the pharisee and the old woman who went to
>>> the
>>> temple to make sacrifice?)
>>>
>>> You ready to put up? I doubt it. I suspect the size of your mouth is
>>> exceeded mainly by your ego, and your actions are far lacking compared
>>> to either.
>>>
>>> (In the mouth and ego department its no contest you win)
>>>
>>> If the government determines a need for social charity programs, they
>>> should do so by purchasing land they need. Simple. If it's too
>>> expensive, buy elsewhere.
>>>
>>> (that's what is happening in this instance so what's your problem)
>>>
>>> As to your notion about "stealing it from the original owners", which
>>> land are you talking about? You'll have to be a little more specific.
>>> Some of the Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of "owning land".
>>> Others regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So, the
>>> "theft" was actually their normally accepted means of transfer, they
>>> simply were defeated by a stronger enemy.
>>>
>>> (like white men with guns and smallpox infested blankets? do the words
>>> "trail of tears" mean anything to you?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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