[Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only ...
Michael D. Weisner
mweisner at ebsmed.com
Mon Nov 10 09:11:08 EST 2008
Herb,
How is it that an English language spelling of a non-English word can be
said to be spelled incorrectly?
A simple review of documents pertaining to the "Sissiton" through Google
revealed the following treaty with the Sioux (original scan of printed text)
regarding the "Sissiton Bands" in which both spellings are used on the same
page of the document:
http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Kappler/vol2/pgimages/sio0956.jpg
Inconsistencies in translations of foreign words into common language seem
to occur fairly often. When in China, just try to order Beijing Duck.
Mike
s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> Sent: Monday, November 10,
2008 8:36 AM
> C'mon now, if a guy wants to get bent out of shape over being born on a
> reservation and his treatment of the "Injuns" by "the white man", then
> can't spell the tribe's name, I say an exception is certainly in order.
>
> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>> Herb,
>> At one time we had a list member named Steve who had a problem with
>> spelling
>> and grammar. At that time it was determined that spelling and
>> grammatical
>> errors were not fair game. It simply would have been to easy.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/10/2008 1:27:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>>
>> My my Slim, little overboard there, aren't you?
>>
>> Nah, I don't REALLY want to put my 1099 up. I figured John would bow
>> out. He did.
>> You missed the percentage, by a considerable amount.
>> I don't belong to a fundamentalist church.
>> The church I belong to doesn't really tell me to do much of anything.
>> I've been there a while, they know that telling me what to do doesn't
>> work well
>> Probably about 1/2 of what we give to charity goes to our local church.
>> There are several other entities that we give to as well.
>> Cheerleader? Wow. Because I ride with a group of guys that pay their
>> respects at funerals? And you call ME "a bore".
>>
>> I think if you'll reread my post, I never said anything similar to "the
>> white man didn't take it away from them". As a matter of fact, I think I
>> said just the opposite. They were defeated by a stronger enemy. Look a
>> little closer to home for the idiot.
>>
>> I don't care to kiss your ass, not really into that, but feel free to
>> invite what guys you can find that are. And, I don't care where you were
>> born, you're still an idiot. If you were born on the Sisseton
>> reservation in SD, I'd figure you'd at least know the tribe was Sisseton
>> not Sissiton.
>>
>> And, I never said anything about fences, but some tribes most definitely
>> had concepts of "land ownership". They defended their hunting grounds
>> against other tribes as fiercely as the white man defended their fences.
>> Two cultures clashed, the more advanced of the two prevailed.
>>
>> But, it's a moot point. I was talking about the founding fathers, not
>> the "white man" in general. The founding fathers were not involved in
>> breaking treaties, decimation of tribes, or the spreading of smallpox.
>> South Dakota was the still the mostly unexplored frontier, and I don't
>> think they (the founding fathers) had much exposure to the Sisseton
>> tribe.
>>
>> And none of that has anything to do with John's stupid statement about a
>> "final solution".
>>
>> I don't have much in the way of charity or compassion for folks that are
>> long since gone. Not much I can do for them.
>>
>>
>> Steven Alm wrote:
>>
>>> Herb,
>>>
>>> Do you have any idea how much you sound like you're talking out your
>>> ass?
>>> Do you really want to put up your 1099 to show off what you've donated
>>> to
>>> charity? You're such a bore. I'm going to guess that maybe you tithe
>>> a
>>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church because they tell you to--out of
>>> false compassion. And the money goes to your church--not anything
>>> real.
>>>
>> Or
>>
>>> at best a small percentage. I know you donate your time riding your
>>> motorcycle around for stuff but is that actually giving? You're a
>>> cheerleader. Great.
>>>
>>> As for the Native Americans you don't seem to have a grasp on history.
>>>
>> Just
>>
>>> because the Injuns didn't have a concept of land ownership or fences
>>>
>> doesn't
>>
>>> mean the white man didn't take it away from them. You're an idiot.
>>> The
>>> Indians were living in the stone-age and were decimated by the white
>>> man
>>>
>> out
>>
>>> of greed and arrogance. There was no need for that. To say that they
>>> simply met a stronger enemy completely usurps all that compassion and
>>> charity that you espouse. You're full of shit! I was born on the
>>> Sissiton
>>> reservation in South Dakota and you can kiss my ass!
>>>
>>> Slim
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> "John,"
>>>> (at least you are capable of starting a post properly by addressing me
>>>> by
>>>> name. I assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see you're
>>>> simply
>>>> rude.
>>>>
>>>> "Go screw yourself."
>>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore perhaps you could send a pic of
>>>> how
>>>> you accomplish it yourself.)
>>>>
>>>> "I've never offered anything like a ""final solution"".
>>>> You're reference reveals you for what you are."
>>>>
>>>> (you have no clue as to who or what I am)
>>>>
>>>> As far as me "detesting" anyone, you again speak from total ignorance.
>>>> I'll make a deal with you though, I'll make my tax returns for the
>>>> last
>>>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity if
>>>> you'll
>>>> do the same.
>>>>
>>>> (Do you recall the parable of the pharisee and the old woman who went
>>>> to
>>>> the
>>>> temple to make sacrifice?)
>>>>
>>>> You ready to put up? I doubt it. I suspect the size of your mouth is
>>>> exceeded mainly by your ego, and your actions are far lacking compared
>>>> to either.
>>>>
>>>> (In the mouth and ego department its no contest you win)
>>>>
>>>> If the government determines a need for social charity programs, they
>>>> should do so by purchasing land they need. Simple. If it's too
>>>> expensive, buy elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> (that's what is happening in this instance so what's your problem)
>>>>
>>>> As to your notion about "stealing it from the original owners", which
>>>> land are you talking about? You'll have to be a little more specific.
>>>> Some of the Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of "owning
>>>> land".
>>>> Others regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So, the
>>>> "theft" was actually their normally accepted means of transfer, they
>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger enemy.
>>>>
>>>> (like white men with guns and smallpox infested blankets? do the words
>>>> "trail of tears" mean anything to you?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.nabble.com/for-Brad%27s-eyes-and-those-who-reason-only-...-tp20405744p20414236.html
>>
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