[Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only ...
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Mon Nov 10 09:50:21 EST 2008
I'd say the indians didn't name the reservation, so my guess would be
that the English spelling works.
Michael D. Weisner wrote:
> Herb,
>
> How is it that an English language spelling of a non-English word can be
> said to be spelled incorrectly?
>
> A simple review of documents pertaining to the "Sissiton" through Google
> revealed the following treaty with the Sioux (original scan of printed text)
> regarding the "Sissiton Bands" in which both spellings are used on the same
> page of the document:
> http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Kappler/vol2/pgimages/sio0956.jpg
>
> Inconsistencies in translations of foreign words into common language seem
> to occur fairly often. When in China, just try to order Beijing Duck.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> Sent: Monday, November 10,
> 2008 8:36 AM
>
>> C'mon now, if a guy wants to get bent out of shape over being born on a
>> reservation and his treatment of the "Injuns" by "the white man", then
>> can't spell the tribe's name, I say an exception is certainly in order.
>>
>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Herb,
>>> At one time we had a list member named Steve who had a problem with
>>> spelling
>>> and grammar. At that time it was determined that spelling and
>>> grammatical
>>> errors were not fair game. It simply would have been to easy.
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/10/2008 1:27:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>>>
>>> My my Slim, little overboard there, aren't you?
>>>
>>> Nah, I don't REALLY want to put my 1099 up. I figured John would bow
>>> out. He did.
>>> You missed the percentage, by a considerable amount.
>>> I don't belong to a fundamentalist church.
>>> The church I belong to doesn't really tell me to do much of anything.
>>> I've been there a while, they know that telling me what to do doesn't
>>> work well
>>> Probably about 1/2 of what we give to charity goes to our local church.
>>> There are several other entities that we give to as well.
>>> Cheerleader? Wow. Because I ride with a group of guys that pay their
>>> respects at funerals? And you call ME "a bore".
>>>
>>> I think if you'll reread my post, I never said anything similar to "the
>>> white man didn't take it away from them". As a matter of fact, I think I
>>> said just the opposite. They were defeated by a stronger enemy. Look a
>>> little closer to home for the idiot.
>>>
>>> I don't care to kiss your ass, not really into that, but feel free to
>>> invite what guys you can find that are. And, I don't care where you were
>>> born, you're still an idiot. If you were born on the Sisseton
>>> reservation in SD, I'd figure you'd at least know the tribe was Sisseton
>>> not Sissiton.
>>>
>>> And, I never said anything about fences, but some tribes most definitely
>>> had concepts of "land ownership". They defended their hunting grounds
>>> against other tribes as fiercely as the white man defended their fences.
>>> Two cultures clashed, the more advanced of the two prevailed.
>>>
>>> But, it's a moot point. I was talking about the founding fathers, not
>>> the "white man" in general. The founding fathers were not involved in
>>> breaking treaties, decimation of tribes, or the spreading of smallpox.
>>> South Dakota was the still the mostly unexplored frontier, and I don't
>>> think they (the founding fathers) had much exposure to the Sisseton
>>> tribe.
>>>
>>> And none of that has anything to do with John's stupid statement about a
>>> "final solution".
>>>
>>> I don't have much in the way of charity or compassion for folks that are
>>> long since gone. Not much I can do for them.
>>>
>>>
>>> Steven Alm wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Herb,
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any idea how much you sound like you're talking out your
>>>> ass?
>>>> Do you really want to put up your 1099 to show off what you've donated
>>>> to
>>>> charity? You're such a bore. I'm going to guess that maybe you tithe
>>>> a
>>>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church because they tell you to--out of
>>>> false compassion. And the money goes to your church--not anything
>>>> real.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Or
>>>
>>>
>>>> at best a small percentage. I know you donate your time riding your
>>>> motorcycle around for stuff but is that actually giving? You're a
>>>> cheerleader. Great.
>>>>
>>>> As for the Native Americans you don't seem to have a grasp on history.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Just
>>>
>>>
>>>> because the Injuns didn't have a concept of land ownership or fences
>>>>
>>>>
>>> doesn't
>>>
>>>
>>>> mean the white man didn't take it away from them. You're an idiot.
>>>> The
>>>> Indians were living in the stone-age and were decimated by the white
>>>> man
>>>>
>>>>
>>> out
>>>
>>>
>>>> of greed and arrogance. There was no need for that. To say that they
>>>> simply met a stronger enemy completely usurps all that compassion and
>>>> charity that you espouse. You're full of shit! I was born on the
>>>> Sissiton
>>>> reservation in South Dakota and you can kiss my ass!
>>>>
>>>> Slim
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "John,"
>>>>> (at least you are capable of starting a post properly by addressing me
>>>>> by
>>>>> name. I assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see you're
>>>>> simply
>>>>> rude.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Go screw yourself."
>>>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore perhaps you could send a pic of
>>>>> how
>>>>> you accomplish it yourself.)
>>>>>
>>>>> "I've never offered anything like a ""final solution"".
>>>>> You're reference reveals you for what you are."
>>>>>
>>>>> (you have no clue as to who or what I am)
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as me "detesting" anyone, you again speak from total ignorance.
>>>>> I'll make a deal with you though, I'll make my tax returns for the
>>>>> last
>>>>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity if
>>>>> you'll
>>>>> do the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Do you recall the parable of the pharisee and the old woman who went
>>>>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>> temple to make sacrifice?)
>>>>>
>>>>> You ready to put up? I doubt it. I suspect the size of your mouth is
>>>>> exceeded mainly by your ego, and your actions are far lacking compared
>>>>> to either.
>>>>>
>>>>> (In the mouth and ego department its no contest you win)
>>>>>
>>>>> If the government determines a need for social charity programs, they
>>>>> should do so by purchasing land they need. Simple. If it's too
>>>>> expensive, buy elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> (that's what is happening in this instance so what's your problem)
>>>>>
>>>>> As to your notion about "stealing it from the original owners", which
>>>>> land are you talking about? You'll have to be a little more specific.
>>>>> Some of the Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of "owning
>>>>> land".
>>>>> Others regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So, the
>>>>> "theft" was actually their normally accepted means of transfer, they
>>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger enemy.
>>>>>
>>>>> (like white men with guns and smallpox infested blankets? do the words
>>>>> "trail of tears" mean anything to you?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
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