[Rhodes22-list] Foam for outside cushions
Michael D. Weisner
mweisner at ebsmed.com
Mon Nov 10 17:43:04 EST 2008
Carol,
We are looking at replacing our cushions and really like the ones at:
http://www.bottomsiders.com/, although we are not sure that they cost less
than the current value of our R22. You might want to ask for a quote.
In the make it yourself category, you may find what you want at one of these
sites:
http://www.foamorder.com/closedcell.html (look at the Flo-Tex)
http://www.closedcellfoams.com/minicel.html (look at the Minicell)
http://www.marinefoam.com/closedcellacousticalfoam.html?page_type=flotation-foams
(look at the Ultra Foam)
https://www.outdoortextiles.com/browse.php?CatID=11&SubCatID=66&page=1
(they also have Minicell)
Some of these companies ship free (I know, you're paying for it somewhere.)
Lots to look at and think about. Let us know if you find a reasonable
solution.
Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
From: <CarolN8 at aol.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:03 PM
>I need to replace the cockpit cushions and Stan said I needed to make sure
>I
> used closed cell foam. So does anyone know where to find closed cell foam
> in
> my local area? Is there a certain type of store that carries it?
>
> Carol
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:28 -0600
> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only
> ...
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> Thanks John, there are lots of us around.
>
> Then there are folks who want to deride people because of their beliefs,
> political views etc. You took a polite discussion about eminent domain
> and turned it an accusation against Brad and I about "final solutions".
>
> Maybe you and Slim SHOULD get together. You seem to have many
> similarities, and he's looking for someone to do weird stuff to his ass.
>
>
> John Shulick wrote:
>> Steven,
>>
>> As a fellow alum from Duquesne Univ. I thank you for your support. Over
>> the
>> last 30 or so years I was a church soloist and section leader for just
> about
>> every major faith and I've seen many Herbs and some spices as
>> well.(sorry
>> couldn't resist)
>>
>> John Shulick
>>
>>
>>
>> Steven Alm wrote:
>>
>>> Herb,
>>>
>>> Do you have any idea how much you sound like you're talking out your
>>> ass?
>>> Do you really want to put up your 1099 to show off what you've donated
>>> to
>>> charity? You're such a bore. I'm going to guess that maybe you
>>> tithe a
>>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church because they tell you to--out of
>>> false compassion. And the money goes to your church--not anything
>>> real.
>>> Or
>>> at best a small percentage. I know you donate your time riding your
>>> motorcycle around for stuff but is that actually giving? You're a
>>> cheerleader. Great.
>>>
>>> As for the Native Americans you don't seem to have a grasp on history.
>>> Just
>>> because the Injuns didn't have a concept of land ownership or fences
>>> doesn't
>>> mean the white man didn't take it away from them. You're an idiot.
>>> The
>>> Indians were living in the stone-age and were decimated by the white
>>> man
>>> out
>>> of greed and arrogance. There was no need for that. To say that they
>>> simply met a stronger enemy completely usurps all that compassion and
>>> charity that you espouse. You're full of shit! I was born on the
>>> Sissiton
>>> reservation in South Dakota and you can kiss my ass!
>>>
>>> Slim
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "John,"
>>>> (at least you are capable of starting a post properly by addressing me
>>>> by
>>>> name. I assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see you're simply
>>>> rude.
>>>>
>>>> "Go screw yourself."
>>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore perhaps you could send a pic
>>>> of
>>>> how
>>>> you accomplish it yourself.)
>>>>
>>>> "I've never offered anything like a ""final solution"".
>>>> You're reference reveals you for what you are."
>>>>
>>>> (you have no clue as to who or what I am)
>>>>
>>>> As far as me "detesting" anyone, you again speak from total ignorance.
>>>> I'll make a deal with you though, I'll make my tax returns for the
>>>> last
>>>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity if
>>>> you'll
>>>> do the same.
>>>>
>>>> (Do you recall the parable of the pharisee and the old woman who went
>>>> to
>>>> the
>>>> temple to make sacrifice?)
>>>>
>>>> You ready to put up? I doubt it. I suspect the size of your mouth is
>>>> exceeded mainly by your ego, and your actions are far lacking compared
>>>> to either.
>>>>
>>>> (In the mouth and ego department its no contest you win)
>>>>
>>>> If the government determines a need for social charity programs, they
>>>> should do so by purchasing land they need. Simple. If it's too
>>>> expensive, buy elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> (that's what is happening in this instance so what's your problem)
>>>>
>>>> As to your notion about "stealing it from the original owners", which
>>>> land are you talking about? You'll have to be a little more specific.
>>>> Some of the Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of "owning
>>>> land".
>>>> Others regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So, the
>>>> "theft" was actually their normally accepted means of transfer, they
>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger enemy.
>>>>
>>>> (like white men with guns and smallpox infested blankets? do the words
>>>> "trail of tears" mean anything to you?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:57:28 -0600
> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only
> ...
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> Sorry John, let's just say that your word for it wouldn't be good enough
> for me, you do keep records, right? If we're just going to say what the
> percentage is, we can say.
>
> Not interested in your social security. That's not giving, that's the
> government taking.
>
> As to your Wiki entry, thanks for confirming what I was trying to say.
> It's good to see you are actually capable of learning. 1830 was a tad
> later than the founding father's period.
>
>
> John Shulick wrote:
>>
>> "I've got a heck of a deal for you. I'll buy your boat from you
>> at the price that I determine is fair, and you can chose to accept it or
>> .... oh wait, that would be your only choice.
>>
>> You do understand the implementation of eminent domain, right?"
>>
>> If you came for my boat I would sink it. If you came for my house I
>> would
>> burn it. If you came for my land I would render it unusable. You could
>> have
>> it after you have have hauled my dead body off it.
>>
>> "The only thing you can do to a free man is kill him." Robert A.
>> Heinlein
>>
>> "You need to study history a little closer. The trail of tears happened
>> LONG after the founding fathers did their thing, you can't blame that
>> one on them."
>>
>> Excerpt from the Wikipedia
>>
>> The Trail of Tears was the forced relocation of Native Americans from
> their
>> homelands to Indian Territory (present day Oklahoma) in the Western
>> United
>> States. The phrase originated from a description of the removal of the
>> Choctaw Nation in 1831. Many Native Americans suffered from exposure,
>> disease, and starvation while en route to their destinations, and many
> died,
>> including, for example, 4,000 of the 15,000 relocated Cherokee.
>> Thousands
> of
>> enslaved and free African-Americans (as slaves accompanying their Native
>> American slaveowners and as former runaway slaves that were assisted by,
>> assimilated by, or married to members of the tribes) accompanied the
> removed
>> nations on the Trail of Tears.
>> In 1830, the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Muscogee (Creek), and
>> Seminole
>> (sometimes collectively referred to as the Five Civilized Tribes) were
>> living as autonomous nations in what would be called the American Deep
>> South. The process of cultural transformation (proposed by GEORGE
> WASHINGTON
>> and HENERY KNOX) was gaining momentum, especially among the Cherokee
>> and
>> Choctaw. Indian removal was first proposed by THOMAS JEFFERSON. Andrew
>> Jackson was the first U.S. President to implement removal with the
>> passage
>> of the Indian Removal Act of 1830. In 1831 the Choctaw were the first to
>> be
>> removed, and they became the model for all other removals. After the
>> Choctaw, the Seminole were removed in 1832, the Creek in 1834, then the
>> Chickasaw in 1837, and finally the Cherokee in 1838.
>>
>> "I'll make my tax returns for the last
>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity if
>> you'll
>> do the same."
>>
>> To many pages to post, HOWEVER I'm Prepared to release my annual social
>> security statement showing what I've earned in my lifetime and will
>> write
> in
>> how many jobs I had to work to make it along with what I gave to
>> charity.(Care to dance?)
>>
>> John Shulick
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:38:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only
> ...
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>
>
> hparsons wrote:
>>
>> "Thanks John, there are lots of us around."
>>
>> That's why this country is in such trouble
>>
>> "Then there are folks who want to deride people because of their
>> beliefs,
>> political views etc. You took a polite discussion about eminent domain
>> and turned it an accusation against Brad and I about "final solutions"."
>>
>> Oh please listen to the pot calling the kettle black. If you don't want
>> comment about your conversations then don't post them in a public forum
>> such as this. Use the back channel or private e-mails to amuse
>> yourselves
>> with your conservative nonsense, please leave the rest of us out of it.
>>
>> "Maybe you and Slim SHOULD get together. You seem to have many
>> similarities, and he's looking for someone to do weird stuff to his
>> ass."
>>
>> I would consider performing with Steven if he were so inclined and the
>> time presented itself. the only ass I'm concerned with is the one I'm
>> responding to right now.
>>
>>
>> John Shulick wrote:
>>> Steven,
>>>
>>> As a fellow alum from Duquesne Univ. I thank you for your support. Over
>>> the
>>> last 30 or so years I was a church soloist and section leader for just
>>> about
>>> every major faith and I've seen many Herbs and some spices as
>>> well.(sorry
>>> couldn't resist)
>>>
>>> John Shulick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steven Alm wrote:
>>>
>>>> Herb,
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any idea how much you sound like you're talking out your
>>>> ass?
>>>> Do you really want to put up your 1099 to show off what you've
>>>> donated
>>>> to
>>>> charity? You're such a bore. I'm going to guess that maybe you
>>>> tithe
>>>> a
>>>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church because they tell you to--out
>>>> of
>>>> false compassion. And the money goes to your church--not anything
>>>> real.
>>>> Or
>>>> at best a small percentage. I know you donate your time riding your
>>>> motorcycle around for stuff but is that actually giving? You're a
>>>> cheerleader. Great.
>>>>
>>>> As for the Native Americans you don't seem to have a grasp on history.
>>>> Just
>>>> because the Injuns didn't have a concept of land ownership or fences
>>>> doesn't
>>>> mean the white man didn't take it away from them. You're an idiot.
>>>> The
>>>> Indians were living in the stone-age and were decimated by the white
>>>> man
>>>> out
>>>> of greed and arrogance. There was no need for that. To say that
>>>> they
>>>> simply met a stronger enemy completely usurps all that compassion and
>>>> charity that you espouse. You're full of shit! I was born on the
>>>> Sissiton
>>>> reservation in South Dakota and you can kiss my ass!
>>>>
>>>> Slim
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "John,"
>>>>> (at least you are capable of starting a post properly by addressing
>>>>> me
>>>>> by
>>>>> name. I assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see you're
>>>>> simply
>>>>> rude.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Go screw yourself."
>>>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore perhaps you could send a pic
>>>>> of
>>>>> how
>>>>> you accomplish it yourself.)
>>>>>
>>>>> "I've never offered anything like a ""final solution"".
>>>>> You're reference reveals you for what you are."
>>>>>
>>>>> (you have no clue as to who or what I am)
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as me "detesting" anyone, you again speak from total
>>>>> ignorance.
>>>>> I'll make a deal with you though, I'll make my tax returns for the
>>>>> last
>>>>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity if
>>>>> you'll
>>>>> do the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Do you recall the parable of the pharisee and the old woman who went
>>>>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>> temple to make sacrifice?)
>>>>>
>>>>> You ready to put up? I doubt it. I suspect the size of your mouth is
>>>>> exceeded mainly by your ego, and your actions are far lacking
>>>>> compared
>>>>> to either.
>>>>>
>>>>> (In the mouth and ego department its no contest you win)
>>>>>
>>>>> If the government determines a need for social charity programs,
>>>>> they
>>>>> should do so by purchasing land they need. Simple. If it's too
>>>>> expensive, buy elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> (that's what is happening in this instance so what's your problem)
>>>>>
>>>>> As to your notion about "stealing it from the original owners", which
>>>>> land are you talking about? You'll have to be a little more specific.
>>>>> Some of the Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of "owning
>>>>> land".
>>>>> Others regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So, the
>>>>> "theft" was actually their normally accepted means of transfer, they
>>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger enemy.
>>>>>
>>>>> (like white men with guns and smallpox infested blankets? do the
>>>>> words
>>>>> "trail of tears" mean anything to you?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>
> http://www.nabble.com/for-Brad%27s-eyes-and-those-who-reason-only-...-tp20405744p20414236.html
>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go
>>>>> to
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:45:50 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only
> ...
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>
>
>
>
> hparsons wrote:
>>
>> Sorry John, let's just say that your word for it wouldn't be good enough
>> for me, you do keep records, right? If we're just going to say what the
>> percentage is, we can say.
>>
>> Didn't think you had the stones to back up your BS
>>
>> "Not interested in your social security. That's not giving, that's the
>> government taking."
>>
>> Not interested in ever seeing me collect social security would be more
>> accurate
>>
>> "As to your Wiki entry, thanks for confirming what I was trying to say.
>> It's good to see you are actually capable of learning. 1830 was a tad
>> later than the founding father's period."
>>
>> Obviously you have trouble comprehending what you read.
>>
>>
>> John Shulick wrote:
>>>
>>> "I've got a heck of a deal for you. I'll buy your boat from you
>>> at the price that I determine is fair, and you can chose to accept it
>>> or
>>> .... oh wait, that would be your only choice.
>>>
>>> You do understand the implementation of eminent domain, right?"
>>>
>>> If you came for my boat I would sink it. If you came for my house I
>>> would
>>> burn it. If you came for my land I would render it unusable. You could
>>> have
>>> it after you have have hauled my dead body off it.
>>>
>>> "The only thing you can do to a free man is kill him." Robert A.
>>> Heinlein
>>>
>>> "You need to study history a little closer. The trail of tears happened
>>> LONG after the founding fathers did their thing, you can't blame that
>>> one on them."
>>>
>>> Excerpt from the Wikipedia
>>>
>>> The Trail of Tears was the forced relocation of Native Americans from
>>> their
>>> homelands to Indian Territory (present day Oklahoma) in the Western
>>> United
>>> States. The phrase originated from a description of the removal of the
>>> Choctaw Nation in 1831. Many Native Americans suffered from exposure,
>>> disease, and starvation while en route to their destinations, and many
>>> died,
>>> including, for example, 4,000 of the 15,000 relocated Cherokee.
>>> Thousands
>>> of
>>> enslaved and free African-Americans (as slaves accompanying their
>>> Native
>>> American slaveowners and as former runaway slaves that were assisted
>>> by,
>>> assimilated by, or married to members of the tribes) accompanied the
>>> removed
>>> nations on the Trail of Tears.
>>> In 1830, the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Muscogee (Creek), and
>>> Seminole
>>> (sometimes collectively referred to as the Five Civilized Tribes) were
>>> living as autonomous nations in what would be called the American Deep
>>> South. The process of cultural transformation (proposed by GEORGE
>>> WASHINGTON
>>> and HENERY KNOX) was gaining momentum, especially among the Cherokee
>>> and
>>> Choctaw. Indian removal was first proposed by THOMAS JEFFERSON. Andrew
>>> Jackson was the first U.S. President to implement removal with the
>>> passage
>>> of the Indian Removal Act of 1830. In 1831 the Choctaw were the first
>>> to
>>> be
>>> removed, and they became the model for all other removals. After the
>>> Choctaw, the Seminole were removed in 1832, the Creek in 1834, then the
>>> Chickasaw in 1837, and finally the Cherokee in 1838.
>>>
>>> "I'll make my tax returns for the last
>>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity if
>>> you'll
>>> do the same."
>>>
>>> To many pages to post, HOWEVER I'm Prepared to release my annual
>>> social
>>> security statement showing what I've earned in my lifetime and will
>>> write
>>> in
>>> how many jobs I had to work to make it along with what I gave to
>>> charity.(Care to dance?)
>>>
>>> John Shulick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:46:42 -0500
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only
> ...
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>
> Herb,
>
> What are you trying to say? This is an attempt to phonetically spell a
> foreign word, the name that they were known as, not just a name that was
> applied to a location.
>
> You guessed wrong.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> Sent: Monday, November 10,
> 2008 9:50 AM
>> I'd say the indians didn't name the reservation, so my guess would be
>> that the English spelling works.
>>
>>
>> Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>> Herb,
>>>
>>> How is it that an English language spelling of a non-English word can
>>> be
>>> said to be spelled incorrectly?
>>>
>>> A simple review of documents pertaining to the "Sissiton" through
>>> Google
>>> revealed the following treaty with the Sioux (original scan of printed
>>> text)
>>> regarding the "Sissiton Bands" in which both spellings are used on the
>>> same
>>> page of the document:
>>> http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Kappler/vol2/pgimages/sio0956.jpg
>>>
>>> Inconsistencies in translations of foreign words into common language
>>> seem
>>> to occur fairly often. When in China, just try to order Beijing Duck.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> Sent: Monday, November
>>> 10,
>>> 2008 8:36 AM
>>>
>>>> C'mon now, if a guy wants to get bent out of shape over being born on
>>>> a
>>>> reservation and his treatment of the "Injuns" by "the white man", then
>>>> can't spell the tribe's name, I say an exception is certainly in
>>>> order.
>>>>
>>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Herb,
>>>>> At one time we had a list member named Steve who had a problem with
>>>>> spelling
>>>>> and grammar. At that time it was determined that spelling and
>>>>> grammatical
>>>>> errors were not fair game. It simply would have been to easy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rummy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 11/10/2008 1:27:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>> hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> My my Slim, little overboard there, aren't you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah, I don't REALLY want to put my 1099 up. I figured John would bow
>>>>> out. He did.
>>>>> You missed the percentage, by a considerable amount.
>>>>> I don't belong to a fundamentalist church.
>>>>> The church I belong to doesn't really tell me to do much of
>>>>> anything.
>>>>> I've been there a while, they know that telling me what to do
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> work well
>>>>> Probably about 1/2 of what we give to charity goes to our local
>>>>> church.
>>>>> There are several other entities that we give to as well.
>>>>> Cheerleader? Wow. Because I ride with a group of guys that pay their
>>>>> respects at funerals? And you call ME "a bore".
>>>>>
>>>>> I think if you'll reread my post, I never said anything similar to
>>>>> "the
>>>>> white man didn't take it away from them". As a matter of fact, I
>>>>> think
>>>>> I
>>>>> said just the opposite. They were defeated by a stronger enemy. Look
>>>>> a
>>>>> little closer to home for the idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't care to kiss your ass, not really into that, but feel free
>>>>> to
>>>>> invite what guys you can find that are. And, I don't care where you
>>>>> were
>>>>> born, you're still an idiot. If you were born on the Sisseton
>>>>> reservation in SD, I'd figure you'd at least know the tribe was
>>>>> Sisseton
>>>>> not Sissiton.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, I never said anything about fences, but some tribes most
>>>>> definitely
>>>>> had concepts of "land ownership". They defended their hunting
>>>>> grounds
>>>>> against other tribes as fiercely as the white man defended their
>>>>> fences.
>>>>> Two cultures clashed, the more advanced of the two prevailed.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, it's a moot point. I was talking about the founding fathers,
>>>>> not
>>>>> the "white man" in general. The founding fathers were not involved
>>>>> in
>>>>> breaking treaties, decimation of tribes, or the spreading of
>>>>> smallpox.
>>>>> South Dakota was the still the mostly unexplored frontier, and I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> think they (the founding fathers) had much exposure to the Sisseton
>>>>> tribe.
>>>>>
>>>>> And none of that has anything to do with John's stupid statement
>>>>> about
>
>>>>> a
>>>>> "final solution".
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have much in the way of charity or compassion for folks that
>>>>> are
>>>>> long since gone. Not much I can do for them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Steven Alm wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Herb,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have any idea how much you sound like you're talking out
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> ass?
>>>>>> Do you really want to put up your 1099 to show off what you've
>>>>>> donated
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> charity? You're such a bore. I'm going to guess that maybe you
>>>>>> tithe
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church because they tell you
>>>>>> to--out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> false compassion. And the money goes to your church--not anything
>>>>>> real.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Or
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> at best a small percentage. I know you donate your time riding
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> motorcycle around for stuff but is that actually giving? You're a
>>>>>> cheerleader. Great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the Native Americans you don't seem to have a grasp on
>>>>>> history.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> because the Injuns didn't have a concept of land ownership or
>>>>>> fences
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> mean the white man didn't take it away from them. You're an
>>>>>> idiot.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> Indians were living in the stone-age and were decimated by the
>>>>>> white
>>>>>> man
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> out
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> of greed and arrogance. There was no need for that. To say that
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> simply met a stronger enemy completely usurps all that compassion
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> charity that you espouse. You're full of shit! I was born on the
>>>>>> Sissiton
>>>>>> reservation in South Dakota and you can kiss my ass!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John,"
>>>>>>> (at least you are capable of starting a post properly by
>>>>>>> addressing
>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> name. I assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see you're
>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>> rude.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Go screw yourself."
>>>>>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore perhaps you could send a
>>>>>>> pic
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> you accomplish it yourself.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I've never offered anything like a ""final solution"".
>>>>>>> You're reference reveals you for what you are."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (you have no clue as to who or what I am)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as me "detesting" anyone, you again speak from total
>>>>>>> ignorance.
>>>>>>> I'll make a deal with you though, I'll make my tax returns for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity if
>>>>>>> you'll
>>>>>>> do the same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Do you recall the parable of the pharisee and the old woman who
>>>>>>> went
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> temple to make sacrifice?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You ready to put up? I doubt it. I suspect the size of your mouth
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> exceeded mainly by your ego, and your actions are far lacking
>>>>>>> compared
>>>>>>> to either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (In the mouth and ego department its no contest you win)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the government determines a need for social charity programs,
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> should do so by purchasing land they need. Simple. If it's too
>>>>>>> expensive, buy elsewhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (that's what is happening in this instance so what's your
>>>>>>> problem)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As to your notion about "stealing it from the original owners",
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> land are you talking about? You'll have to be a little more
>>>>>>> specific.
>>>>>>> Some of the Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of "owning
>>>>>>> land".
>>>>>>> Others regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So,
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> "theft" was actually their normally accepted means of transfer,
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger enemy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (like white men with guns and smallpox infested blankets? do the
>>>>>>> words
>>>>>>> "trail of tears" mean anything to you?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nabble.c
> om/for-Brad%27s-eyes-and-those-who-reason-only-...-tp20405744p20414236.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:46:51 -0600
> From: "ben" <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] my last word on the election
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <000601c9434b$8e17c360$aa474a20$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> That was very close
> Haiku is a fine art form
> The first line needs work
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of stan
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:53
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] my last word on the election
>
> We Americans have not changed
>
> we still rely on black folk
>
> to clean up our mess
>
>
> ss
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:56:17 -0800 (PST)
> From: Just bent <j.bulfer at jbtek.com>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] question about electricity
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <20422568.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When
> we
> got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked. I
> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity from
> the
> storm?
> Jb
>
> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:13:26 -0500
> From: "Ron Singerman" <sail at tds.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] St Petersburg boat show. For stan
> To: "Rhodes list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID: <D1D6AAF915EB4FEE9B55C76F6D2FFE4C at computer>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> stan,
>
> Will you be represented at the St Pete show?
>
> Fair winds and following seas,
>
>>>ron<<
> S/V Serenity
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:15:03 EST
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about electricity
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <cb9.3c17dc54.3649b807 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> JB,
>
> Yes, what you experienced is static electricity. It wasn't caused by the
> storms, but it is a natural phenomenon that has been discussed previously
> on
>
> this forum many years ago. Your boat is basically a "plastic" boat. You
> have
>
> plastic sails and metal thrown in for good measure. The sails are the
> most
> likely culprit and the fiberglass and the rest of the boat are the
> storage
> battery. The shock is even more noticeable when bare skin is involved,
> like
> a bare
> belly hanging over a rail. That will really get your attention, even when
> drunk.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 11/10/2008 10:57:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> j.bulfer at jbtek.com writes:
>
>
> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When
> we
> got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked. I
> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity from
> the
> storm?
> Jb
>
> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg
> --
> View this message in context:
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:20:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] question about shocking Rhodes 22's
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Jay:
>
> You are not the first to experience this! Several years ago, Carol Nixon
> of
> Colorado had that very problem. She does not usually respond to this
> list
> although she is still shown in the digested listing.
>
> You might want to contact her to find out what she did. We referred to
> her
> as lady with shocking Rhodes 22.
>
> I posted pictures of her and her boat last spring.
>
> Ed K
>
>
>
> Just bent wrote:
>>
>> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When
>> we got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked.
>> I
>> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity from
>> the storm?
>> Jb
>>
>> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg
>>
>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:22:46 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailboats with water in desert...
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <20423082.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Imagine, sailboats with water in the desert. Maybe that is where all
> Rummy's
> water is?
>
> Nice pictures.
>
> Ed K
>
>
>
> quote author="Just bent">
> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When
> we
> got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked. I
> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity from
> the
> storm?
> Jb
>
> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg
>
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/question-about-electricity-tp20422568p20423082.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:25:00 EST
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about shocking Rhodes 22's
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <d4e.3e7b8fe7.3649ba5c at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Jay,
> The last time we discussed this, I actually took a volt meter and
> measured
> 22 volts. I took the measurement from the offending rail and grounded the
> negative end to the outboard which was in the water. The meter went to
> 22/23
>
> volts and then almost instantly disappeared. Waiting a few minutes
> produced
> the
> same results. Since our boats are all 12 volt systems with 110 volt thrown
> in
> occasionally, it ruled out any source within the boat. The amperage was
> really
> low, so it was more of a nuisance shock than anything dangerous.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 11/10/2008 11:20:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ekroposki at charter.net writes:
>
>
> Jay:
>
> You are not the first to experience this! Several years ago, Carol
> Nixon of
> Colorado had that very problem. She does not usually respond to this
> list
> although she is still shown in the digested listing.
>
> You might want to contact her to find out what she did. We referred to
> her
> as lady with shocking Rhodes 22.
>
> I posted pictures of her and her boat last spring.
>
> Ed K
>
>
>
> Just bent wrote:
>>
>> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day.
>> When
>> we got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get
>> shocked. I
>> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity
>> from
>> the storm?
>> Jb
>>
>> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg
>>
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:25:33 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] When you are dealing with Democrats, think
> of this ...
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Brad,
>
> When you are dealing with Democrats, think of this:
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/09/2008-11-09_councilman_vows
> _to_quit_alcohol_after_pu.html
>
> Ed K
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/When-you-are-d
> ealing-with-Democrats%2C-think-of-this-...-tp20423136p20423136.html
> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:30:42 EST
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] When you are dealing with Democrats,
> think of this ...
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <c61.3c981885.3649bbb2 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Ed,
> Must have been all republicans beneath him. Sure was a waste of a good
> drink
> though. :)
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 11/10/2008 11:26:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ekroposki at charter.net writes:
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/09/2008-11-09_councilman_vows
> _to_quit_alcohol_after_pu.html
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:46:21 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] When you are dealing with Democrats,
> think of this ...
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Ed,
>
> Amusing. And you thought democrats don't believe in "Trickle Down
> Economics"
>
> John Shulick
>
>
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/09/2008-11-09_councilman_vows
> _to_quit_alcohol_after_pu.html
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:56:20 EST
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (Humor) Banister of Life...
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <ca8.39793310.3649c1b4 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As You Slide Down the Banister of Life, Remember:
>
> 1. Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggert have written an impressive new book.
> It's
> called ......... 'Ministers Do More Than Lay People.'
>
> 2. Transvestite: A guy who likes to eat, drink and be Mary.
>
> 3. The difference between the Pope and your boss, the Pope only expects
> you
> to kiss his ring.
>
> 4. My mind works like lightning, One brilliant flash and it is gone.
>
> 5. The only time the world beats a path to your door is if you're in the
> bathroom.
>
> 6. I hate sex in the movies. Tried it once. The seat folded up, the
> drink
> spilled and that ice, well, it really chilled the mood.
>
> 7. It used to be only death and taxes were inevitable Now, of course,
> there's shipping and handling, too.
>
> 8. A husband is someone who, after taking the trash out, gives the
> impression that he just cleaned the whole house.
>
> 9. My next house will have no kitchen - just vending machines and a
> large
> trash can.
>
> 10. A blonde said, 'I was worried that my mechanic might try to rip me
> off.
> I was relieved when he told me all I needed was turn signal fluid.'
>
> 11. My neighbor was bit by a stray rabid dog. I went to see how he was
> and
> found him writing frantically on a piece of paper.
> I told him rabies could be treated, and he didn't have to worry about a
> Will.
> He said, 'Will? What Will? I'm making a list of the people I want to
> bite.'
>
> 12. Definition of a teenager? God's punishment... for enjoying sex.
>
> 13. As you slide down the banister of life, may the splinters never
> point
> the wrong way.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:57:03 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about shocking Rhodes 22's
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID: <20423781.post at talk.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Rummy,
>
> Was there a consensus reached about electrical grounding on a sailboat?
> I've
> given the matter some thought and could make an argument either way but
> would appreciate any input from more experienced people such as yourself.
>
> Thank you
> John Shulick
>
>
> R22RumRunner wrote:
>>
>> Jay,
>> The last time we discussed this, I actually took a volt meter and
>> measured
>
>> 22 volts. I took the measurement from the offending rail and grounded
>> the
>> negative end to the outboard which was in the water. The meter went to
>> 22/23
>> volts and then almost instantly disappeared. Waiting a few minutes
>> produced the
>> same results. Since our boats are all 12 volt systems with 110 volt
>> thrown
>> in
>> occasionally, it ruled out any source within the boat. The amperage was
>> really
>> low, so it was more of a nuisance shock than anything dangerous.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/10/2008 11:20:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> ekroposki at charter.net writes:
>>
>>
>> Jay:
>>
>> You are not the first to experience this! Several years ago, Carol
>> Nixon
>> of
>> Colorado had that very problem. She does not usually respond to this
>> list
>> although she is still shown in the digested listing.
>>
>> You might want to contact her to find out what she did. We referred to
>> her
>> as lady with shocking Rhodes 22.
>>
>> I posted pictures of her and her boat last spring.
>>
>> Ed K
>>
>>
>>
>> Just bent wrote:
>>>
>>> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day.
>>> When
>>> we got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get
>>> shocked.
>>> I
>>> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity
>>> from
>>> the storm?
>>> Jb
>>>
>>> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg
>>>
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> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:58:09 -0500
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about electricity
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> Jb,
>
> The first pic is just fabulous! For an northeast boater, the
> foothills/mountains show that it is not like any water that we sail in
> here
> on the LI Sound. Beautiful - and the water still feels wet and you can
> sail
> on the stuff? Here, boats are hauled and wrapped, the leaves have nearly
> all fallen (we did have one of the prettiest autumns in years) ... Now
> if
> only we could sail on snow!
>
> As far as static electricity accumulating on the hull goes, it is
> probably
> due to the lack of humidity. Just as it occurs on airplanes, the winds
> redistribute electrons, causing a charge to build up on the insulated
> (fiberglass) hull. The simplest way to remedy this is to provide a
> leakage
> path to the water. All conductive metal objects (motor housing, rails,
> mast, rigging, etc.) should be connected together via a small wire (no
> real
> current is involved) and terminated at a fixture that is exposed to the
> water. Care should be taken to make connection to the water away from
> gasoline vapors (not at the motor or mount) and using a "sacrificial
> anode",
> something that you would not miss, as it may be consumed by galvanic
> corrosion in the process of transferring the charge. See
> http://www.boatus.com/boattech/casey/23.htm
>
> The creation of static electricity in this manner has been a real problem
> in
> biking (bicycles) due to the use of nylon suits and composite helmets.
> Some
> people have had good results using antistatic preparations such as fabric
> softeners to solve the problem. While treating the hull with wax
> increases
> the static generation ability, applying fabric softener solutions may
> reduce
> the generated potential, although the combination may cause an unsafe,
> very
> slippery surface.
>
> You need to find a way to harness the potential energy that you have
> created
> rather than just discharge it. How about a static electricity motor - I
> think that John Galt knew something about this ...
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Just bent" <j.bulfer at jbtek.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008
> 10:56
>
> AM
>>
>> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When
>> we
>> got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked. I
>> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity from
>> the
>> storm?
>> Jb
>>
>> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg
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