[Rhodes22-list] Foam for outside cushions

CarolN8 at aol.com CarolN8 at aol.com
Mon Nov 10 17:03:27 EST 2008


I need to replace the cockpit cushions and Stan said I needed to make sure  I 
used closed cell foam. So does anyone know where to find closed cell foam in  
my local area? Is there a certain type of store that carries it?
 
Carol
 
 
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Message:  1
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:28 -0600
From: Herb Parsons  <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
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Thanks John, there are lots of us  around.

Then there are folks who want to deride people because of their  beliefs, 
political views etc. You took a polite discussion about eminent  domain 
and turned it an accusation against Brad and I about "final  solutions".

Maybe you and Slim SHOULD get together. You seem to have  many 
similarities, and he's looking for someone to do weird stuff to his  ass.


John Shulick wrote:
> Steven,
>
> As a  fellow alum from Duquesne Univ. I thank you for your support. Over the
>  last 30 or so years I was a church soloist and section leader for just  
about
> every major faith and I've seen many Herbs and some spices as  well.(sorry
> couldn't resist) 
>
> John  Shulick
>
>
>
> Steven Alm wrote:
>    
>> Herb,
>>
>> Do you have any idea how much you  sound like you're talking out your ass?
>> Do you really want to put  up your 1099 to show off what you've donated to
>>  charity?   You're such a bore.  I'm going to guess that maybe  you tithe a
>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church because they  tell you to--out of
>> false compassion.  And the money goes to  your church--not anything real. 
>> Or
>> at best a small  percentage.  I know you donate your time riding your
>>  motorcycle around for stuff but is that actually giving?  You're  a
>> cheerleader.  Great.
>>
>> As for the  Native Americans you don't seem to have a grasp on history. 
>>  Just
>> because the Injuns didn't have a concept of land ownership or  fences
>> doesn't
>> mean the white man didn't take it away  from them.  You're an idiot.  The
>> Indians were living in  the stone-age and were decimated by the white man
>> out
>>  of greed and arrogance.  There was no need for that.  To say that  they
>> simply met a stronger enemy completely usurps all that  compassion and
>> charity that you espouse.  You're full of  shit!  I was born on the
>> Sissiton
>> reservation in  South Dakota and you can kiss my ass!
>>
>>  Slim
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick  <jsbudda at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> "John,"
>>> (at least you are capable of starting  a post properly by addressing me by
>>> name. I assumed you were  ignorant at first but now I see you're simply
>>>  rude.
>>>
>>> "Go screw yourself."
>>>  (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore perhaps you could send a pic  of
>>> how
>>> you accomplish it  yourself.)
>>>
>>> "I've never offered anything like a  ""final solution"".
>>> You're reference reveals you for what you  are."
>>>
>>> (you have no clue as to who or what I  am)
>>>
>>> As far as me "detesting" anyone, you again  speak from total ignorance.
>>> I'll make a deal with you though,  I'll make my tax returns for the last
>>> 10 years public on here  to show how much I've given to charity if you'll
>>> do the  same.
>>>
>>> (Do you recall the parable of the  pharisee and the old woman who went to
>>> the
>>>  temple to make sacrifice?)
>>>
>>> You ready to put  up? I doubt it. I suspect the size of your mouth is
>>> exceeded  mainly by your ego, and your actions are far lacking compared
>>>  to either.
>>>
>>> (In the mouth and ego department  its no contest you win)
>>>
>>> If the government  determines a need for social charity programs, they
>>> should do  so by purchasing land they need. Simple. If it's too
>>>  expensive, buy elsewhere.
>>>
>>> (that's what is  happening in this instance so what's your  problem)
>>>
>>> As to your notion about "stealing it  from the original owners", which
>>> land are you talking about?  You'll have to be a little more specific.
>>> Some of the Indian  tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of "owning land".
>>> Others  regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So, the
>>>  "theft" was actually their normally accepted means of transfer,  they
>>> simply were defeated by a stronger  enemy.
>>>
>>> (like white men with guns and smallpox  infested blankets? do the words
>>> "trail of tears" mean anything  to you?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Date: Mon, 10  Nov 2008 08:57:28 -0600
From: Herb Parsons  <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes  and those who reason only
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Sorry John, let's just say that your  word for it wouldn't be good enough 
for me, you do keep records, right? If  we're just going to say what the 
percentage is, we can say.

Not  interested in your social security. That's not giving, that's the  
government taking.

As to your Wiki entry, thanks for confirming  what I was trying to say. 
It's good to see you are actually capable of  learning. 1830 was a tad 
later than the founding father's  period.


John Shulick wrote:
>
> "I've got a heck of a  deal for you. I'll buy your boat from you 
> at the price that I  determine is fair, and you can chose to accept it or 
> .... oh wait,  that would be your only choice.
>
> You do understand the  implementation of eminent domain, right?"
>
> If you came for my  boat I would sink it. If you came for my house I would
> burn it. If you  came for my land I would render it unusable. You could have
> it after  you have have hauled my dead body off it. 
>
> "The only thing you  can do to a free man is kill him." Robert A. Heinlein
>
> "You  need to study history a little closer. The trail of tears happened 
>  LONG after the founding fathers did their thing, you can't blame that 
>  one on them."
>
> Excerpt from the Wikipedia
>
> The  Trail of Tears was the forced relocation of Native Americans from  
their
> homelands to Indian Territory (present day Oklahoma) in the  Western United
> States. The phrase originated from a description of the  removal of the
> Choctaw Nation in 1831. Many Native Americans suffered  from exposure,
> disease, and starvation while en route to their  destinations, and many 
died,
> including, for example, 4,000 of the  15,000 relocated Cherokee. Thousands 
of
> enslaved and free  African-Americans (as slaves accompanying their Native
> American  slaveowners and as former runaway slaves that were assisted by,
>  assimilated by, or married to members of the tribes) accompanied the  
removed
> nations on the Trail of Tears.
> In 1830, the Cherokee,  Chickasaw, Choctaw, Muscogee (Creek), and Seminole
> (sometimes  collectively referred to as the Five Civilized Tribes) were
> living as  autonomous nations in what would be called the American Deep
> South.  The process of cultural transformation (proposed by GEORGE 
WASHINGTON
>  and HENERY KNOX) was gaining momentum, especially among the Cherokee  and
> Choctaw. Indian removal was first proposed by THOMAS JEFFERSON.  Andrew
> Jackson was the first U.S. President to implement removal with  the passage
> of the Indian Removal Act of 1830. In 1831 the Choctaw  were the first to be
> removed, and they became the model for all other  removals. After the
> Choctaw, the Seminole were removed in 1832, the  Creek in 1834, then the
> Chickasaw in 1837, and finally the Cherokee in  1838.
>
>  "I'll make my tax returns for the last  
>  10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity  if you'll 
>  do the same." 
>
> To many pages to post,  HOWEVER I'm Prepared to release my annual social
> security statement  showing what I've earned in my lifetime and will write 
in
> how many  jobs I had to work to make it along with what I gave to
> charity.(Care  to dance?)
>
> John Shulick
>  
>   
>    


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 10  Nov 2008 07:38:07 -0800 (PST)
From: John Shulick  <jsbudda at verizon.net>
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hparsons wrote:
> 
> "Thanks  John, there are lots of us around."
> 
> That's why this country  is in such trouble
> 
> "Then there are folks who want to deride  people because of their beliefs, 
> political views etc. You took a  polite discussion about eminent domain 
> and turned it an accusation  against Brad and I about "final solutions"."
> 
> Oh please listen  to the pot calling the kettle black. If you don't want
> comment about  your conversations then don't post them in a public forum
> such as  this. Use the back channel or private e-mails to amuse yourselves
> with  your conservative nonsense, please leave the rest of us out of it. 
>  
> "Maybe you and Slim SHOULD get together. You seem to have many  
> similarities, and he's looking for someone to do weird stuff to his  ass."
> 
> I would consider performing with Steven if he were so  inclined and the
> time presented itself. the only ass I'm concerned  with is the one I'm
> responding to right now.
> 
> 
>  John Shulick wrote:
>> Steven,
>>
>> As a fellow  alum from Duquesne Univ. I thank you for your support. Over
>>  the
>> last 30 or so years I was a church soloist and section leader  for just
>> about
>> every major faith and I've seen many  Herbs and some spices as well.(sorry
>> couldn't resist)  
>>
>> John  Shulick
>>
>>
>>
>> Steven Alm  wrote:
>>   
>>>  Herb,
>>>
>>> Do you have any idea how much you sound  like you're talking out your
>>> ass?
>>> Do you  really want to put up your 1099 to show off what you've  donated
>>> to
>>> charity?   You're such a  bore.  I'm going to guess that maybe you tithe
>>>  a
>>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church because they tell you  to--out of
>>> false compassion.  And the money goes to your  church--not anything real. 
>>> Or
>>> at best a small  percentage.  I know you donate your time riding your
>>>  motorcycle around for stuff but is that actually giving?  You're  a
>>> cheerleader.  Great.
>>>
>>> As  for the Native Americans you don't seem to have a grasp on history.  
>>> Just
>>> because the Injuns didn't have a concept  of land ownership or fences
>>> doesn't
>>> mean the  white man didn't take it away from them.  You're an idiot.   The
>>> Indians were living in the stone-age and were decimated by  the white man
>>> out
>>> of greed and  arrogance.  There was no need for that.  To say that  they
>>> simply met a stronger enemy completely usurps all that  compassion and
>>> charity that you espouse.  You're full of  shit!  I was born on the
>>> Sissiton
>>>  reservation in South Dakota and you can kiss my  ass!
>>>
>>> Slim
>>>
>>> On  Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick  <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>     
>>>>  "John,"
>>>> (at least you are capable of starting a post  properly by addressing me
>>>> by
>>>> name. I  assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see you're  simply
>>>> rude.
>>>>
>>>> "Go  screw yourself."
>>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore  perhaps you could send a pic of
>>>> how
>>>>  you accomplish it yourself.)
>>>>
>>>> "I've  never offered anything like a ""final solution"".
>>>> You're  reference reveals you for what you  are."
>>>>
>>>> (you have no clue as to who or  what I am)
>>>>
>>>> As far as me "detesting"  anyone, you again speak from total ignorance.
>>>> I'll make a  deal with you though, I'll make my tax returns for the  last
>>>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given  to charity if
>>>> you'll
>>>> do the  same.
>>>>
>>>> (Do you recall the parable of  the pharisee and the old woman who went
>>>>  to
>>>> the
>>>> temple to make  sacrifice?)
>>>>
>>>> You ready to put up? I  doubt it. I suspect the size of your mouth is
>>>> exceeded  mainly by your ego, and your actions are far lacking  compared
>>>> to  either.
>>>>
>>>> (In the mouth and ego  department its no contest you win)
>>>>
>>>> If  the government determines a need for social charity programs,  they
>>>> should do so by purchasing land they need. Simple. If  it's too
>>>> expensive, buy  elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> (that's what is happening  in this instance so what's your  problem)
>>>>
>>>> As to your notion about  "stealing it from the original owners", which
>>>> land are you  talking about? You'll have to be a little more specific.
>>>>  Some of the Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of  "owning
>>>> land".
>>>> Others regularly took  land from each other by armed conflict. So, the
>>>> "theft"  was actually their normally accepted means of transfer,  they
>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger  enemy.
>>>>
>>>> (like white men with guns and  smallpox infested blankets? do the words
>>>> "trail of tears"  mean anything to  you?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>  
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:45:50 -0800 (PST)
From: John Shulick  <jsbudda at verizon.net>
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hparsons wrote:
> 
> Sorry  John, let's just say that your word for it wouldn't be good enough 
>  for me, you do keep records, right? If we're just going to say what the  
> percentage is, we can say.
> 
> Didn't think you had the  stones to back up your BS  
> 
> "Not interested in your  social security. That's not giving, that's the 
> government  taking."
> 
> Not interested in ever seeing me collect social  security would be more
> accurate  
> 
> "As to your  Wiki entry, thanks for confirming what I was trying to say. 
> It's good  to see you are actually capable of learning. 1830 was a tad 
> later  than the founding father's period."
> 
> Obviously you have  trouble comprehending what you read.
> 
> 
> John Shulick  wrote:
>>
>> "I've got a heck of a deal for you. I'll buy  your boat from you 
>> at the price that I determine is fair, and you  can chose to accept it or 
>> .... oh wait, that would be your only  choice.
>>
>> You do understand the implementation of  eminent domain, right?"
>>
>> If you came for my boat I  would sink it. If you came for my house I would
>> burn it. If you  came for my land I would render it unusable. You could
>>  have
>> it after you have have hauled my dead body off it.   
>>
>> "The only thing you can do to a free man is kill  him." Robert A. Heinlein
>>
>> "You need to study history a  little closer. The trail of tears happened 
>> LONG after the  founding fathers did their thing, you can't blame that 
>> one on  them."
>>
>> Excerpt from the  Wikipedia
>>
>> The Trail of Tears was the forced relocation  of Native Americans from
>> their
>> homelands to Indian  Territory (present day Oklahoma) in the Western
>> United
>>  States. The phrase originated from a description of the removal of  the
>> Choctaw Nation in 1831. Many Native Americans suffered from  exposure,
>> disease, and starvation while en route to their  destinations, and many
>> died,
>> including, for example,  4,000 of the 15,000 relocated Cherokee. Thousands
>> of
>>  enslaved and free African-Americans (as slaves accompanying their  Native
>> American slaveowners and as former runaway slaves that were  assisted by,
>> assimilated by, or married to members of the tribes)  accompanied the
>> removed
>> nations on the Trail of  Tears.
>> In 1830, the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Muscogee  (Creek), and Seminole
>> (sometimes collectively referred to as the  Five Civilized Tribes) were
>> living as autonomous nations in what  would be called the American Deep
>> South. The process of cultural  transformation (proposed by GEORGE
>> WASHINGTON
>> and  HENERY KNOX) was gaining momentum, especially among the Cherokee  and
>> Choctaw. Indian removal was first proposed by THOMAS  JEFFERSON. Andrew
>> Jackson was the first U.S. President to  implement removal with the
>> passage
>> of the Indian  Removal Act of 1830. In 1831 the Choctaw were the first to
>>  be
>> removed, and they became the model for all other removals.  After the
>> Choctaw, the Seminole were removed in 1832, the Creek in  1834, then the
>> Chickasaw in 1837, and finally the Cherokee in  1838.
>>
>>  "I'll make my tax returns for the last  
>>  10 years public on here to show how much I've given to  charity if you'll 
>>  do the same." 
>>
>> To  many pages to post, HOWEVER I'm Prepared to release my annual  social
>> security statement showing what I've earned in my lifetime  and will write
>> in
>> how many jobs I had to work to make  it along with what I gave to
>> charity.(Care to  dance?)
>>
>> John Shulick
>>   
>>  
>>   
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Message:  5
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:46:42 -0500
From: "Michael D. Weisner"  <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
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Herb,

What are you trying to say?  This  is an attempt to phonetically spell a 
foreign word, the name that they  were known as, not just a name that was 
applied to a location.

You  guessed wrong.

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue  River, NY

From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> Sent:  Monday, November 10, 
2008 9:50 AM
> I'd say the indians didn't name  the reservation, so my guess would be
> that the English spelling  works.
>
>
> Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>  Herb,
>>
>> How is it that an English language spelling of a  non-English word can be
>> said to be spelled  incorrectly?
>>
>> A simple review of documents pertaining  to the "Sissiton" through Google
>> revealed the following treaty  with the Sioux (original scan of printed 
>> text)
>>  regarding the "Sissiton Bands" in which both spellings are used on the  
>> same
>> page of the document:
>>  http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Kappler/vol2/pgimages/sio0956.jpg
>>
>>  Inconsistencies in translations of foreign words into common language  
>> seem
>> to occur fairly often.  When in China, just  try to order Beijing Duck.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v  Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
>>        Nissequogue  River, NY
>>
>> From: "Herb Parsons"  <hparsons at parsonsys.com> Sent: Monday, November 10,
>> 2008  8:36 AM
>>
>>> C'mon now, if a guy wants to get bent out  of shape over being born on a
>>> reservation and his treatment of  the "Injuns" by "the white man", then
>>> can't spell the tribe's  name, I say an exception is certainly in  order.
>>>
>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Herb,
>>>> At one  time we had a list member named Steve who had a problem  with
>>>> spelling
>>>> and grammar. At that  time it was determined that spelling and
>>>>  grammatical
>>>> errors were not fair game. It simply would  have been to easy.
>>>>
>>>>  Rummy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message  dated 11/10/2008 1:27:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>  hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> My  my  Slim, little overboard there, aren't  you?
>>>>
>>>> Nah, I don't REALLY want to   put my 1099 up. I figured John would bow
>>>> out. He  did.
>>>> You missed the  percentage, by a considerable  amount.
>>>> I don't belong to a fundamentalist   church.
>>>> The church I belong to doesn't really tell me to  do much of  anything.
>>>> I've been there a while, they  know that telling me what to do  doesn't
>>>> work  well
>>>> Probably about 1/2 of what we give to charity goes  to  our local 
>>>> church.
>>>> There are  several other entities that we give to as  well.
>>>>  Cheerleader? Wow. Because I ride with a group of guys that pay  their
>>>> respects at funerals? And you call ME "a  bore".
>>>>
>>>> I think if you'll  reread  my post, I never said anything similar to 
>>>>  "the
>>>> white man didn't  take it away from them". As a  matter of fact, I think 
>>>> I
>>>> said just  the  opposite. They were defeated by a stronger enemy. Look  a
>>>> little closer to  home for the  idiot.
>>>>
>>>> I don't care to kiss your ass,  not really into  that, but feel free to
>>>> invite what  guys you can find that are. And, I  don't care where you  
>>>> were
>>>> born, you're still an idiot. If  you were born on  the Sisseton
>>>> reservation in SD, I'd  figure you'd at least know the tribe  was 
>>>>  Sisseton
>>>> not  Sissiton.
>>>>
>>>> And, I never said anything  about fences,  but some tribes most 
>>>>  definitely
>>>> had concepts of "land ownership". They   defended their hunting grounds
>>>> against other tribes as  fiercely as the  white man defended their 
>>>>  fences.
>>>> Two cultures clashed, the more advanced  of  the two prevailed.
>>>>
>>>> But, it's a moot  point. I was talking about the  founding fathers, not
>>>>  the "white man" in general. The founding fathers  were not involved  in
>>>> breaking treaties, decimation of tribes, or the   spreading of smallpox.
>>>> South Dakota was the still the  mostly unexplored  frontier, and I don't
>>>> think they  (the founding fathers) had much exposure  to the  Sisseton
>>>> tribe.
>>>>
>>>>  And none of that has anything to do with John's  stupid statement about 
 
>>>> a
>>>> "final  solution".
>>>>
>>>> I don't have much in  the  way of charity or compassion for folks that 
>>>>  are
>>>> long since gone. Not much  I can do for  them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steven Alm  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  Herb,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Do you have any  idea how much you sound like you're talking out your
>>>>>  ass?
>>>>> Do you really want to put up your 1099 to show  off what you've 
>>>>> donated
>>>>>  to
>>>>> charity?   You're such a bore.  I'm  going to  guess that maybe you 
>>>>>  tithe
>>>>> a
>>>>> full 10% to your  fundamentalist church  because they tell you to--out  
>>>>> of
>>>>> false compassion.   And the money  goes to your church--not anything
>>>>>  real.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  Or
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> at best a  small  percentage.  I know you donate your time riding  your
>>>>> motorcycle  around for stuff but is that  actually giving?  You're a
>>>>>   cheerleader.  Great.
>>>>>
>>>>> As  for the Native Americans you  don't seem to have a grasp on  
>>>>>  history.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  Just
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> because  the Injuns  didn't have a concept of land ownership or  fences
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  doesn't
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> mean  the  white man didn't take it away from them.  You're an  idiot.
>>>>> The
>>>>> Indians were living  in the stone-age and were decimated by the  white
>>>>>  man
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  out
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> of greed  and arrogance.  There was no need for  that.  To say that  
>>>>> they
>>>>> simply met a stronger  enemy completely  usurps all that compassion and
>>>>>  charity that you espouse.  You're  full of shit!  I was born on  the
>>>>> Sissiton
>>>>> reservation in  South  Dakota and you can kiss my  ass!
>>>>>
>>>>>  Slim
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun,  Nov 9, 2008  at 10:36 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  "John,"
>>>>>> (at least  you are capable of  starting a post properly by addressing 
>>>>>>  me
>>>>>> by
>>>>>>  name. I  assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see  you're
>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>  rude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Go screw   yourself."
>>>>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore  perhaps you  could send a pic 
>>>>>>  of
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> you accomplish  it  yourself.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  "I've never offered anything like a ""final   solution"".
>>>>>> You're reference reveals you for what  you  are."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (you  have no clue as to who or what I   am)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as me  "detesting" anyone, you again speak  from total  
>>>>>> ignorance.
>>>>>> I'll make  a deal with you though, I'll make  my tax returns for  the
>>>>>> last
>>>>>> 10 years  public on here to show how  much I've given to charity  if
>>>>>> you'll
>>>>>> do the   same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Do you recall  the parable of the pharisee and  the old woman who  
>>>>>> went
>>>>>>  to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> temple to  make  sacrifice?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  You ready to put up? I doubt it. I suspect  the size of your mouth  is
>>>>>> exceeded mainly by your ego, and your   actions are far lacking 
>>>>>>  compared
>>>>>> to   either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (In the mouth  and ego department its no  contest you  win)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the government  determines a need  for social charity programs,  
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> should do so by  purchasing land  they need. Simple. If it's  too
>>>>>> expensive, buy   elsewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (that's  what is happening in this instance  so what's your  problem)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As to your  notion about  "stealing it from the original owners",  
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> land are you  talking  about? You'll have to be a little more  
>>>>>> specific.
>>>>>> Some of  the  Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of  "owning
>>>>>> land".
>>>>>>   Others regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So,  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> "theft" was  actually their normally accepted means of  transfer,  they
>>>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger   enemy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (like white men  with guns and smallpox infested  blankets? do the  
>>>>>> words
>>>>>> "trail of  tears" mean anything to   you?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon,  10 Nov 2008 09:46:51 -0600
From: "ben"  <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  my last word on the election
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That was very close
Haiku is a fine art  form
The first line needs work


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Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:53
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] my last word on the  election

We Americans have not changed

we still  rely on black folk

to clean up our  mess


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Message:  7
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:56:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Just bent  <j.bulfer at jbtek.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  question about  electricity
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Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather.  Had a great day. When we
got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you  would get shocked. I
unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it  static electricity from the
storm?
Jb

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Message:  8
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:13:26 -0500
From: "Ron Singerman"  <sail at tds.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] St Petersburg boat show. For  stan
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stan,

Will you be  represented at the St Pete show?

Fair winds and following  seas,

>>ron<<
S/V  Serenity

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Message: 9
Date: Mon,  10 Nov 2008 11:15:03 EST
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] question about electricity
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JB,

Yes, what you experienced is static  electricity. It wasn't caused by the  
storms, but it is a natural  phenomenon that has been discussed previously on 
 
this forum many  years ago. Your boat is basically a "plastic" boat. You have 
 
plastic  sails and metal thrown in for good measure. The sails are the most   
likely culprit and the fiberglass and the rest of the boat are the  storage  
battery. The shock is even more noticeable when bare skin is  involved, like 
a  bare 
belly hanging over a rail. That will really  get your attention, even when  
drunk.

Rummy


In a  message dated 11/10/2008 10:57:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,   
j.bulfer at jbtek.com writes:


Went  sailing yesterday in  somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When we
got  back to the  dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked.  I
unhooked the  battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity  from  
the
storm?
Jb

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Message:  10
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:20:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Tootle  <ekroposki at charter.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  question about  shocking Rhodes 22's
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Jay:

You are not the first to experience  this!  Several years ago, Carol Nixon of
Colorado had that very  problem.  She does not usually respond to this list
although she is  still shown in the digested listing.  

You might want to contact  her to find out what she did.  We referred to her
as lady with  shocking Rhodes 22.

I posted pictures of her and her boat last  spring.

Ed K



Just bent wrote:
> 
> Went  sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When
> we  got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked.  I
> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static  electricity from
> the storm?
> Jb
> 
> Jb  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg 
>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg 
>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg 
>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg 
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Message:  11
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:22:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Tootle  <ekroposki at charter.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  Sailboats with  water in desert...
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Imagine, sailboats with water in the desert.   Maybe that is where all Rummy's
water is?

Nice pictures.   

Ed K



quote author="Just bent">
Went sailing  yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When we
got back to  the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked. I
unhooked the  battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity from  the
storm?
Jb

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http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg  
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http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg 


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Message:  12
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:25:00 EST
From:  R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about shocking  Rhodes 22's
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Jay,
The last time we discussed this, I actually  took a volt meter and measured  
22 volts. I took the measurement from  the offending rail and grounded the  
negative end to the outboard  which was in the water. The meter went to 22/23 
 
volts and then  almost instantly disappeared. Waiting a few minutes produced 
the   
same results. Since our boats are all 12 volt systems with 110 volt thrown  
in  
occasionally, it ruled out any source within the boat. The  amperage was 
really 
low, so it was more of a nuisance shock than anything  dangerous.

Rummy


In a message dated 11/10/2008 11:20:30 A.M.  Eastern Standard Time,  
ekroposki at charter.net  writes:


Jay:

You are not the first to experience this!   Several  years ago, Carol Nixon of
Colorado had that very  problem.  She does  not usually respond to this list
although she  is still shown in the  digested listing.  

You might want to  contact her to find out what  she did.  We referred to her
as  lady with shocking Rhodes 22.

I  posted pictures of her and her  boat last spring.

Ed  K



Just bent wrote:
>  
> Went sailing yesterday in  somewhat stormy weather. Had a great  day. When
> we got back to the  dock, when you touch the boat, you  would get shocked. I
> unhooked the  battery & still got  shocked. Was it static electricity from
> the  storm?
>  Jb
> 
> Jb   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg 
>   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg 
>   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg 
>   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg 
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Message:  13
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:25:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Tootle  <ekroposki at charter.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  When you are  dealing with Democrats, think
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Brad,

When you are dealing with Democrats,  think of  this:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/09/2008-11-09_councilman_vows
_to_quit_alcohol_after_pu.html

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Message:  14
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:30:42 EST
From:  R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] When you are dealing with  Democrats,
think of this ...
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Ed,
Must have been all republicans beneath him.  Sure was a waste of a good  
drink 
though.  :)

Rummy


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Message:  15
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:46:21 -0800 (PST)
From: John Shulick  <jsbudda at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] When you are  dealing with Democrats,
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Ed, 

Amusing. And you thought democrats  don't believe in "Trickle Down Economics"

John  Shulick



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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:56:20 EST
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As You  Slide  Down the Banister of Life, Remember:

1. Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggert  have written an impressive  new book. It's 
called .........  'Ministers Do More Than Lay  People.'

2. Transvestite: A guy who  likes to eat, drink and be  Mary.

3. The difference between the  Pope and your boss, the Pope only  expects you 
to kiss his  ring.

4. My mind works like lightning, One  brilliant flash and it  is gone.

5. The only time the world beats a  path to your door is  if you're in the 
bathroom.

6. I hate sex in the  movies. Tried  it once. The seat folded up, the drink 
spilled and that ice,  well,  it really chilled the mood.

7. It used to be only death and  taxes  were inevitable Now, of course, 
there's shipping and handling,   too.

8. A husband is someone who, after taking the trash out,  gives  the 
impression that he just cleaned the whole house.

9.  My next house  will have no kitchen - just vending machines and a large  
trash  can.

10. A blonde said, 'I was worried that my mechanic  might try to  rip me off. 
I was relieved when he told me all I needed  was turn signal  fluid.'

11. My neighbor was bit by a stray rabid  dog. I went to see  how he was and 
found him writing frantically on a  piece of paper.
I told  him rabies could be treated, and he didn't  have to worry about a 
Will.  
He said, 'Will? What Will? I'm  making a list of the people I want to  bite.'

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Message:  17
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:57:03 -0800 (PST)
From: John Shulick  <jsbudda at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about  shocking Rhodes 22's
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Rummy,

Was there a consensus reached about  electrical grounding on a sailboat? I've
given the matter some thought and  could make an argument either way but
would appreciate any input from more  experienced people such as yourself.

Thank you
John  Shulick


R22RumRunner wrote:
> 
> Jay,
> The last  time we discussed this, I actually took a volt meter and measured 
  
> 22 volts. I took the measurement from the offending rail and grounded  the  
> negative end to the outboard which was in the water. The  meter went to
> 22/23  
> volts and then almost instantly  disappeared. Waiting a few minutes
> produced the  
> same  results. Since our boats are all 12 volt systems with 110 volt thrown
>  in  
> occasionally, it ruled out any source within the boat. The  amperage was
> really 
>  low, so it was more of a nuisance  shock than anything dangerous.
>  
> Rummy
>   
>  
> In a message dated 11/10/2008 11:20:30 A.M. Eastern  Standard Time,  
> ekroposki at charter.net writes:
> 
>  
> Jay:
> 
> You are not the first to experience this!   Several  years ago, Carol Nixon
> of
> Colorado had that very  problem.  She does  not usually respond to this
> list
>  although she is still shown in the  digested listing.  
>  
> You might want to contact her to find out what  she did.   We referred to
> her
> as lady with shocking Rhodes 22.
>  
> I  posted pictures of her and her boat last spring.
>  
> Ed  K
> 
> 
> 
> Just bent  wrote:
>> 
>> Went sailing yesterday in  somewhat  stormy weather. Had a great day. When
>> we got back to the   dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked.
>>  I
>> unhooked the  battery & still got shocked. Was it  static electricity from
>> the  storm?
>>  Jb
>> 
>> Jb   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg 
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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:58:09 -0500
From: "Michael D. Weisner"  <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about  electricity
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Jb,

The first pic is just fabulous!   For an northeast boater, the 
foothills/mountains show that it is not like  any water that we sail in here 
on the LI Sound.  Beautiful - and the  water still feels wet and you can sail 
on the stuff?  Here, boats are  hauled and wrapped, the leaves have nearly 
all fallen (we did have one of  the prettiest autumns in years) ...  Now if 
only we could sail on  snow!

As far as static electricity accumulating on the hull goes, it is  probably 
due to the lack of humidity.  Just as it occurs on  airplanes, the winds 
redistribute electrons, causing a charge to build up  on the insulated 
(fiberglass) hull.  The simplest way to remedy this  is to provide a leakage 
path to the water.  All conductive metal  objects (motor housing, rails, 
mast, rigging, etc.) should be connected  together via a small wire (no real 
current is involved) and terminated at  a fixture that is exposed to the 
water.  Care should be taken to make  connection to the water away from 
gasoline vapors (not at the motor or  mount) and using a "sacrificial anode", 
something that you would not miss,  as it may be consumed by galvanic 
corrosion in the process of transferring  the charge.  See  
http://www.boatus.com/boattech/casey/23.htm

The creation of static  electricity in this manner has been a real problem in 
biking (bicycles)  due to the use of nylon suits and composite helmets.  Some 
people  have had good results using antistatic preparations such as fabric  
softeners to solve the problem.  While treating the hull with wax  increases 
the static generation ability, applying fabric softener  solutions may reduce 
the generated potential, although the combination may  cause an unsafe, very 
slippery surface.

You need to find a way to  harness the potential energy that you have created 
rather than just  discharge it.  How about a static electricity motor - I 
think that  John Galt knew something about this ...

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer  ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY

From: "Just bent"  <j.bulfer at jbtek.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:56 
 
AM
>
> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had  a great day. When 
> we
> got back to the dock, when you touch the  boat, you would get shocked. I
> unhooked the battery & still got  shocked. Was it static electricity from 
> the
> storm?
>  Jb
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