[Rhodes22-list] Elle already has the shotgun out...on another issue

[Herb Parsons]

But .... but .... but Elle, you were becoming one of the guys!!!!

elle wrote:
> My, my...interesting posts again today. Maybe I'll drop my 2¢ in the bucket, too.
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> Can youse guys (you know who you are) back off the testosterone pills for a few days?
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> I thoroughly enjoy the gvie & take of the political discussions...the points brought up by both sides and the counterpoint by the other. Even though I despise politics, I find that the columnists and videos gave me new perspective on the political parties.
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> HOWEVER....that does not mean that I agreed with all or any of the postings....but I appreciate the insight.
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> But any enlightened  discussion is so totally destroyed by the 'quien es mas macho' attitude of you guys.
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> You are GOING TO DISAGREE. Accept it. Get OVER it. State your positions and document them. If your argument is strong it will stand on its own. You are all right. And you are all wrong. And sometimes you git it right or wrong by half. But y'allwill never cross the line to the other side, which is also OK......
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> But the namecalling HAS to STOP. It does nothing to enhance your argument; on the contrary, it weakens you if you can find no other way to convince someone than by bullying. 
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> And you guys are bullies. Loud bullies. 
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> I grew up with tremendous verbal abuse, and, guys, this is just as bad. And there is no need for it. Calling another lister vile names (  openly and overtly ...one of you does it in your face & another uses more finesse, but namecalling is that, no matter how it is presented....(like dog doo on a plate or in a plastic bag)  you KNOW who you are!) and does nothing to strengthen your argument...it just diminishes you in my eyes and in the eyes of others.
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> I seriously cannot take more of this. I am entering a very stressful time of year and turn to the list as Iwould to a gathering of friends where I can sit back & let the karma swirl around me & raise my spirits.
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> It hasn't been happening.
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> Please ...reread your posts. Please...ask if the sarcasm & spite & vitriol are really necessary. Ask if you canmake your point without diminishing your reader.
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> Several literate & interesting posters have been run off recently...and although I do defend your right to state your piece, you don't have the right to be repeatedly offensive....and when you call names, you ARE offensive. 
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> And none of this 'I didn't really mean XXXX..he just took it that way." That's crap. You all know exactly what you are doing & the impact you want to have.
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> Later I'll tell ya why I have the other shotgun out....
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> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
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> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)
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