[Rhodes22-list] Elle already has the shotgun out...on another issue

[elle]

It ain't working...;^)     

I guess I'd rather find one than be one...

;^)

elle

We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.

1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)


--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:

> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elle already has the shotgun out...on another issue
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 1:56 PM
> But .... but .... but Elle, you were becoming one of the
> guys!!!!
> 
> elle wrote:
> > My, my...interesting posts again today. Maybe I'll
> drop my 2¢ in the bucket, too.
> >
> > Can youse guys (you know who you are) back off the
> testosterone pills for a few days?
> >
> > I thoroughly enjoy the gvie & take of the
> political discussions...the points brought up by both sides
> and the counterpoint by the other. Even though I despise
> politics, I find that the columnists and videos gave me new
> perspective on the political parties.
> >
> > HOWEVER....that does not mean that I agreed with all
> or any of the postings....but I appreciate the insight.
> >
> > But any enlightened  discussion is so totally
> destroyed by the 'quien es mas macho' attitude of
> you guys.
> >
> > You are GOING TO DISAGREE. Accept it. Get OVER it.
> State your positions and document them. If your argument is
> strong it will stand on its own. You are all right. And you
> are all wrong. And sometimes you git it right or wrong by
> half. But y'allwill never cross the line to the other
> side, which is also OK......
> >
> > But the namecalling HAS to STOP. It does nothing to
> enhance your argument; on the contrary, it weakens you if
> you can find no other way to convince someone than by
> bullying. 
> >
> > And you guys are bullies. Loud bullies. 
> >
> > I grew up with tremendous verbal abuse, and, guys,
> this is just as bad. And there is no need for it. Calling
> another lister vile names (  openly and overtly ...one of
> you does it in your face & another uses more finesse,
> but namecalling is that, no matter how it is
> presented....(like dog doo on a plate or in a plastic bag) 
> you KNOW who you are!) and does nothing to strengthen your
> argument...it just diminishes you in my eyes and in the eyes
> of others.
> >
> > I seriously cannot take more of this. I am entering a
> very stressful time of year and turn to the list as Iwould
> to a gathering of friends where I can sit back & let the
> karma swirl around me & raise my spirits.
> >
> > It hasn't been happening.
> >
> > Please ...reread your posts. Please...ask if the
> sarcasm & spite & vitriol are really necessary. Ask
> if you canmake your point without diminishing your reader.
> >
> > Several literate & interesting posters have been
> run off recently...and although I do defend your right to
> state your piece, you don't have the right to be
> repeatedly offensive....and when you call names, you ARE
> offensive. 
> >
> > And none of this 'I didn't really mean
> XXXX..he just took it that way." That's crap. You
> all know exactly what you are doing & the impact you
> want to have.
> >
> > Later I'll tell ya why I have the other shotgun
> out....
> >
> > elle
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
> can adjust our sails.
> >
> > 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"
>   (Lady in Red)
> >
> >
> >       
> >
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