[Rhodes22-list] Complaint to List Admin

[elle]

I'm still in teacher mode & I'm getting annoyed messing with these cords...(it really is easier w/a helper..)

Mike, maybe you could ask him nicely? Let's leave the passive-agressive behind.

Herb? Maybe you could agree...nicely?

I like you both...but you have to stop kicking each other when you think no one's looking...

And I still have the shotgun out... (story later. I may have to shoot the printer..)

elle

We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.

1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)


--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:

> From: Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Complaint to List Admin
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 3:57 PM
> Maybe if Herb signed his posts as is required by the rules
> of "da list", the 
> filter could be set to trash all email with "Herb
> Parsons" in the body.  Of 
> course, those of you who use digest format will not see any
> mail at all, 
> since a day does not go by without a response from or about
> Herb.  Herb, do 
> ya feel the love?
> 
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> From: "John Lock" <jlock at relevantarts.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 
> 12:47 PM
> > At 11:12 AM 11/13/2008 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Thanks for the suggestion and it seems like a good
> idea, but I can't seem 
> >>to
> >>make it work.   The main problem is that on my
> machine list-serve emails 
> >>are
> >>from "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org", not
> from Herb Parsons.  Can you suggest 
> >>a
> >>solution that will work with Outlook's rules
> manager?
> >
> > OK, a few things to cover here -
> >
> > 1) A careful review of the e-mail headers from the
> list will reveal
> > that the "From:" header is always the
> sender's address (not the list
> > address).  However, it gets more complicated under the
> hood.  There
> > is a second "from" header called the SMTP
> envelope sender (sometimes
> > shown as the "return-path" or
> "from" header) and that will be the
> > list address.  Think about it like a postal letter
> with one return
> > address on the envelope, but a different one on the
> letter inside.
> >
> > My test with an old version of Outlook Express
> filtered list mail
> > based on the "From:" address, not the list
> address.  However, it may
> > be that newer versions (or full Outlook) actually use
> the SMTP
> > envelope address as "from" in the filter
> rules, which is not helpful
> > for this purpose.  Not sure how you filter in that
> case.  The problem
> > for email software developers is that mail headers are
> easily forged,
> > so it's difficult to decide which to filter and
> which to present to a
> > user without confusion.
> >
> > 2) If you are reading the digest version of the list,
> sorry, there's
> > not much you can do.  The digested compilations are
> addressed from
> > the list server and not an individual.   You'll
> just have to mentally
> > skip the parts that you don't want to read. 
> Alternatively, turn
> > Digest mode off and then you can filter more precisely
> (unless you're
> > hobbled by Outlook).
> >
> > 3) I fired up my old, unused copy of Outlook Express
> and tried a
> > quick test.  It seems to filter list mail as expected
> by "From:"
> > address.   I opened an e-mail from the list, pulled
> down the
> > "Message" menu and clicked "Block
> Sender".   Seemed to do the right
> > thing.  You might need to adjust your procedure based
> on the version
> > of Outlook you have.
> >
> > I don't use Outlook, so this is speculation based
> on a quick review
> > of my dormant copy.  Maybe folks who are proficient in
> Outlook can
> > fill in the details.
> >
> > Also, other mail software (or add-on spam filters)
> will give you more
> > precise filtering options.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > John Lock
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> > Lake Sinclair, GA
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
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