[Rhodes22-list] Political....this is interesting.
Brad Haslett
flybrad at gmail.com
Thu Nov 20 11:47:58 EST 2008
Bill,
Just one nit to pick here - he actually wasn't forced to give-up his
license, both he and Michelle allowed their law licenses to lapse into
inactive status. In Michelle's case, that might make some sense
because she got a 100% raise when her husband was elected to the US
Senate. Winning earmarks for her employer made her more valuable than
practicing law and she didn't have to keep-up with the continuing
education requirements. In BHO's case, he could avoid ethics issues as
his political stock rose, for example, admitted prior use of drugs and
perhaps citizenship issues.
I've specifically stayed away from these ongoing citizenship theories
because I figured, sooner or later, BHO would produce the
documentation to make fools of everyone and the issue would fade.
There's only one small flaw in my theory - he's obfuscated at every
step of the way on every question raised.
Let's hope this is just a "tempest in a teapot" and we don't face a
constitutional crisis. On the other hand, it would be irresponsible
of us as citizens to let a candidate to make a mockery of our laws,
er, I mean other than campaign finance laws.
Brad
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> Brad,
>
> I don't believe Obama had a US passport at that time.
>
> In order to get a US passport showing your "nationality" as "United
> States of America" you must prove you are a US citizen. I don't believe
> Obama could do that in1981.
>
> The passport office specifically states that the short form registry of
> live birth provided by the Obama campaign is not sufficient proof of
> American Citizenship. Supporting early childhood records, which could
> be used, show Obama was an Indonesian citizen with a different name.
>
> There is no record I am aware of that Obama ever claimed his US
> citizenship or his birth father's name. He lied about his Indonesian
> identity on his application for a law license in Illinois and was forced
> to give up the license as a result.
>
> The "Obama" administration looks a whole lot like what a "Clinton"
> administration would have looked like if she became president. If Obama
> is ruled ineligible for the Presidency, Democratic electors in the
> electoral college could be instructed to cast their ballots for Clinton
> instead, and she could be elected President of the United States. (She
> could pardon Obama for all crimes committed, even those not yet charged
> a la Ford and Nixon.)
>
> Rummy,
>
> Thanks, it IS interesting.
>
> Obama could have put an end to this a long time ago by simply providing
> information substantiating that he was born in Hawaii and legally
> reclaimed his American citizenship at some point prior to running for
> President. Even then, there would be an open question about the
> meaning of the "natural born citizen" clause of the Constitution, but
> there is a real question here, that has not been addressed by Obama or
> the Democrats.
>
> It will be interesting to see how it shakes out.
>
> Bill Effros
>
> Brad Haslett wrote:
>> Rummy,
>>
>> Don't forget the Alan Keyes lawsuit filed November 12 in California
>> where Dr. Keyes was on the ballot.
>>
>> http://www.soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf
>>
>> What's interesting about the Keyes lawsuit is the question it raises
>> about the trip to Pakistan (illegal for US citizens at the time). Did
>> O just break the law or was he traveling on a foreign passport?
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:09 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>
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