[Rhodes22-list] Political....this is interesting.
Ben Cittadino
bcittadino at dcs-law.com
Thu Nov 20 17:00:35 EST 2008
Brad;
Wait a minute ...Wait a minute... forget Obama.....get back to the nurse
part....
Best;
Ben C.
Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> It doesn't make any sense and Ben's law degree doesn't mean Jack
> Schitt to anyone with basic common sense. We've all been to court
> and seen how much common sense is available there. You and I can't
> get a passport without providing the simple documents being asked for
> here. Legal, schmegal - show me your damn papers! Enough of lawyers
> and politicians. You people are subject to the same standards as
> everybody else.
>
> And Ben, Area 51 really exists, I've had to fly around it a hundred
> times and it isn't in the SouthWest. As for Elvis being dead, I used
> to b^*g, er, date a nurse who saw him come into the emergency room
> very dead. I'll spare you the homework in case you thought about
> going there - there isn't a law in Tennessee against dating older
> women.
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:57 PM, <pdgrand at nospam.wmis.net> wrote:
>> Ben,
>>
>> I understand where you're going with that, but the underlying question is
>> why has it even gotten to this point? Everyone seems to agree that
>> proving your citizenship is a very simple and easy thing to do if you are
>> indeed a citizen. So, why hasn't he done it? Why let something like
>> this
>> spin to this level? It just doesn't make any sense.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>>
>>> Bill;
>>>
>>> I suppose it's possible that a space ship landed in the American
>>> southwest
>>> in "Area 51" in the 1950's but it's so unlikely that nobody cares,
>>> except
>>> a
>>> few UFO enthusiasts who entertain themselves and their friends with wild
>>> and
>>> silly conspiracy theories;
>>>
>>> I suppose it's possible that Elvis Presley is alive and working as a gas
>>> station attendant having escaped his pressure cooker life as a celebrity
>>> but
>>> it's so unlikely that nobody cares, except a few Presley enthusiasts who
>>> entertain themselves and their friends with wild and silly conspiracy
>>> theories;
>>>
>>> I suppose it's possible that Barack Obama is covering up the fact that
>>> he
>>> is
>>> not a natural born American citizen but it's so unlikely that nobody
>>> cares,
>>> except.....(well, you get the idea).
>>>
>>> I'm "Jones'n" for a good Sarah Palin joke. Are they all gone?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Ben C.
>>>
>>> Bill Effros wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Herb,
>>>>
>>>> If Obama were born in Hawaii it would appear he had 3 citizenships, US
>>>> by virtue of his place of birth; English because his father had
>>>> commonwealth status; and Indonesian by virtue of his attendance at
>>>> Indonesian schools at which his citizenship was stated as Indonesian.
>>>>
>>>> Indonesia required citizens of other countries to give up all other
>>>> citizenships before they could enjoy the benefits of Indonesian
>>>> citizenship -- like passports and schooling.
>>>>
>>>> Obama could have reclaimed his American Citizenship, as many on this
>>>> list have reported they have done, but it does not appear he has done
>>>> so. This step, and officially changing his name back to "Barack
>>>> Hussein
>>>> Obama" would seem to be the minimum requirements for running and
>>>> serving
>>>> as "President Barack Hussein Obama".
>>>>
>>>> There would remain the question of "natural born citizen", but
>>>> reclaiming name and citizenship would seem to be necessary first.
>>>> There
>>>> is no indication he has done either.
>>>>
>>>> When Republicans indicated an interest in running citizen Arnold
>>>> Schwarznegger for President Democrats let them know in no uncertain
>>>> terms that only "natural born citizens" need apply for the job of
>>>> President.
>>>>
>>>> The current situation is commonly referred to as "repayment in kind."
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Herb Parsons wrote:
>>>>> Believe it or not, I have a problem with Dr. Keye's lawsuit in
>>>>> particular, and the whole "not a citizen" issue in general.
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all, IF Barak was not a citizen when he was born, that puts
>>>>> everything in a different light (and I think that's a possibility, I'm
>>>>> not convinced one way or another at this point).
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if he was born a US citizen, I think the notion that his
>>>>> parents may have taken that away by their later actions is wrong. If
>>>>> it's technically correct, I still think it's wrong. No one should be
>>>>> able to take away a US citizen's birthright, unless THAT citizen has
>>>>> done something to lose it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rummy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't forget the Alan Keyes lawsuit filed November 12 in California
>>>>>> where Dr. Keyes was on the ballot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's interesting about the Keyes lawsuit is the question it raises
>>>>>> about the trip to Pakistan (illegal for US citizens at the time).
>>>>>> Did
>>>>>> O just break the law or was he traveling on a foreign passport?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:09 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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