[Rhodes22-list] Political....this is interesting.

Thu Nov 20 16:42:31 EST 2008

Paul,

It doesn't make any sense and Ben's law degree doesn't mean Jack
Schitt to anyone with  basic common sense.  We've all been to court
and seen how much common sense is available there.  You and I can't
get a passport without providing the simple documents being asked for
here.  Legal, schmegal - show me your damn papers! Enough of lawyers
and politicians.  You people are subject to the same standards as
everybody else.

And Ben, Area 51 really exists, I've had to fly around it a hundred
times and it isn't in the SouthWest.  As for Elvis being dead, I used
to b^*g, er, date a nurse who saw him come into the emergency room
very dead.  I'll spare you the homework in case you thought about
going there - there isn't a law in Tennessee against dating older
women.

Brad

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:57 PM,  <pdgrand at nospam.wmis.net> wrote:
> Ben,
>
> I understand where you're going with that, but the underlying question is
> why has it even gotten to this point?  Everyone seems to agree that
> proving your citizenship is a very simple and easy thing to do if you are
> indeed a citizen.  So, why hasn't he done it?  Why let something like this
> spin to this level?  It just doesn't make any sense.
>
> Paul
>
>>
>> Bill;
>>
>> I suppose it's possible that a space ship landed in the American southwest
>> in "Area 51" in the 1950's but it's so unlikely that nobody cares, except
>> a
>> few UFO enthusiasts who entertain themselves and their friends with wild
>> and
>> silly conspiracy theories;
>>
>> I suppose it's possible that Elvis Presley is alive and working as a gas
>> station attendant having escaped his pressure cooker life as a celebrity
>> but
>> it's so unlikely that nobody cares, except a few Presley enthusiasts who
>> entertain themselves and their friends with wild and silly conspiracy
>> theories;
>>
>> I suppose it's possible that Barack Obama is covering up the fact that he
>> is
>> not a natural born American citizen but it's so unlikely that nobody
>> cares,
>> except.....(well, you get the idea).
>>
>> I'm "Jones'n" for a good Sarah Palin joke. Are they all gone?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Ben C.
>>
>> Bill Effros wrote:
>>>
>>> Herb,
>>>
>>> If Obama were born in Hawaii it would appear he had 3 citizenships, US
>>> by virtue of his place of birth; English because his father had
>>> commonwealth status; and Indonesian by virtue of his attendance at
>>> Indonesian schools at which his citizenship was stated as Indonesian.
>>>
>>> Indonesia required citizens of other countries to give up all other
>>> citizenships before they could enjoy the benefits of Indonesian
>>> citizenship -- like passports and schooling.
>>>
>>> Obama could have reclaimed his American Citizenship, as many on this
>>> list have reported they have done, but it does not appear he has done
>>> so.  This step, and officially changing his name back to "Barack Hussein
>>> Obama" would seem to be the minimum requirements for running and serving
>>> as "President Barack Hussein Obama".
>>>
>>> There would remain the question of "natural born citizen", but
>>> reclaiming name and citizenship would seem to be necessary first.  There
>>> is no indication he has done either.
>>>
>>> When Republicans indicated an interest in running citizen Arnold
>>> Schwarznegger for President Democrats let them know in no uncertain
>>> terms that only "natural born citizens" need apply for the job of
>>> President.
>>>
>>> The current situation is commonly referred to as "repayment in kind."
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Herb Parsons wrote:
>>>> Believe it or not, I have a problem with Dr. Keye's lawsuit in
>>>> particular, and the whole "not a citizen" issue in general.
>>>>
>>>> First of all, IF Barak was not a citizen when he was born, that puts
>>>> everything in a different light (and I think that's a possibility, I'm
>>>> not convinced one way or another at this point).
>>>>
>>>> However, if he was born a US citizen, I think the notion that his
>>>> parents may have taken that away by their later actions is wrong. If
>>>> it's technically correct, I still think it's wrong. No one should be
>>>> able to take away a US citizen's birthright, unless THAT citizen has
>>>> done something to lose it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rummy,
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget the Alan Keyes lawsuit filed November 12 in California
>>>>> where Dr. Keyes was on the ballot.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> What's interesting about the Keyes lawsuit is the question it raises
>>>>> about the trip to Pakistan (illegal for US citizens at the time).  Did
>>>>> O just break the law or was he traveling on a foreign passport?
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:09 AM,  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
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