[Rhodes22-list] Political....this is interesting.
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Fri Nov 21 00:37:58 EST 2008
Actually, the judge that threw out the case did so because the plaintiff
had "no standing". So he found someone that did.
Definitely a "strange bedfellows" situation. He's a Hillary Democrat,
teaming up with a far right-wing black guy who's often been called an
"uncle tom" because of his political views, and a "religious nutcase"
because of his religious views.
Ben Cittadino wrote:
> Paul;
>
> The point of my post (other than to get a rise out of Brad,...."Mission
> Accomplished") was to suggest that there are always a relatively small
> number of people who will fight anything, no matter how obvious it is that
> they are wasting their time. (I believe the "Flat Earth Society" still
> exists). The Obama citizenship issue hasn't gotten to "this point" or "this
> level" with anybody who (forgive me) "matters". America is getting ready to
> celebrate this electoral result. Alan Keyes is no longer a serious person
> (my opinion) and his traveling side show only succeeds in certain, shall we
> say, backwaters, of American culture. I don't know exactly when the elevator
> stopped going all the way to the top floor with that guy, but he has
> definitely undergone some major cerebral malfunction (again my opinion).
> Other lawsuits making the same claims have already been tossed.
>
> Look, people who want to get all worked up over this issue have my blessing.
> It's a free country. But as we stand on the threshold of a new
> administration which will have to deal immediately with only about 496
> crucial, life and death, FUTURE OF AMERICA issues, the question of Mr.
> Obama's citizenship is just not important.
>
> Ben S. please don't send any "offensive" jokes by way of the list, but a
> back-channel communication is just fine. You have my email address.
>
> Best;
>
> Ben C.
>
>
>
>
> pdgrand wrote:
>
>> Ben,
>>
>> I understand where you're going with that, but the underlying question is
>> why has it even gotten to this point? Everyone seems to agree that
>> proving your citizenship is a very simple and easy thing to do if you are
>> indeed a citizen. So, why hasn't he done it? Why let something like this
>> spin to this level? It just doesn't make any sense.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>> Bill;
>>>
>>> I suppose it's possible that a space ship landed in the American
>>> southwest
>>> in "Area 51" in the 1950's but it's so unlikely that nobody cares, except
>>> a
>>> few UFO enthusiasts who entertain themselves and their friends with wild
>>> and
>>> silly conspiracy theories;
>>>
>>> I suppose it's possible that Elvis Presley is alive and working as a gas
>>> station attendant having escaped his pressure cooker life as a celebrity
>>> but
>>> it's so unlikely that nobody cares, except a few Presley enthusiasts who
>>> entertain themselves and their friends with wild and silly conspiracy
>>> theories;
>>>
>>> I suppose it's possible that Barack Obama is covering up the fact that he
>>> is
>>> not a natural born American citizen but it's so unlikely that nobody
>>> cares,
>>> except.....(well, you get the idea).
>>>
>>> I'm "Jones'n" for a good Sarah Palin joke. Are they all gone?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Ben C.
>>>
>>> Bill Effros wrote:
>>>
>>>> Herb,
>>>>
>>>> If Obama were born in Hawaii it would appear he had 3 citizenships, US
>>>> by virtue of his place of birth; English because his father had
>>>> commonwealth status; and Indonesian by virtue of his attendance at
>>>> Indonesian schools at which his citizenship was stated as Indonesian.
>>>>
>>>> Indonesia required citizens of other countries to give up all other
>>>> citizenships before they could enjoy the benefits of Indonesian
>>>> citizenship -- like passports and schooling.
>>>>
>>>> Obama could have reclaimed his American Citizenship, as many on this
>>>> list have reported they have done, but it does not appear he has done
>>>> so. This step, and officially changing his name back to "Barack Hussein
>>>> Obama" would seem to be the minimum requirements for running and serving
>>>> as "President Barack Hussein Obama".
>>>>
>>>> There would remain the question of "natural born citizen", but
>>>> reclaiming name and citizenship would seem to be necessary first. There
>>>> is no indication he has done either.
>>>>
>>>> When Republicans indicated an interest in running citizen Arnold
>>>> Schwarznegger for President Democrats let them know in no uncertain
>>>> terms that only "natural born citizens" need apply for the job of
>>>> President.
>>>>
>>>> The current situation is commonly referred to as "repayment in kind."
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Herb Parsons wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Believe it or not, I have a problem with Dr. Keye's lawsuit in
>>>>> particular, and the whole "not a citizen" issue in general.
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all, IF Barak was not a citizen when he was born, that puts
>>>>> everything in a different light (and I think that's a possibility, I'm
>>>>> not convinced one way or another at this point).
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if he was born a US citizen, I think the notion that his
>>>>> parents may have taken that away by their later actions is wrong. If
>>>>> it's technically correct, I still think it's wrong. No one should be
>>>>> able to take away a US citizen's birthright, unless THAT citizen has
>>>>> done something to lose it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rummy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't forget the Alan Keyes lawsuit filed November 12 in California
>>>>>> where Dr. Keyes was on the ballot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's interesting about the Keyes lawsuit is the question it raises
>>>>>> about the trip to Pakistan (illegal for US citizens at the time). Did
>>>>>> O just break the law or was he traveling on a foreign passport?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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