[Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL-Palin Begins 2012 Campaign
TN Rhodey
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Thu Nov 27 06:51:48 EST 2008
Robert,
Welcome and I couldn't agree more.
Wally
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Robert J. Nickerson <infoman at mindspring.com
> wrote:
> Notes on Palin from a lurker -
>
> 1. She is reasonably intelligent, very politically savvy, and quickly
> learning to be a consummate actress on the national political stage.
>
> 2. She helped the GOP ticket only with those who were most conservative
> and
> would either vote for the GOP or not vote for a presidential candidate at
> all. The article you so proudly cite says it all - 69% of GOP voters is
> less than a third of all voters. The question that needs to be asked of
> all
> voters is the one Rummy answered - did Palin's nomination influence you to
> change your vote. I know that I had some thoughts before the conventions
> that if Obama named Clinton as his running mate, I would be voting for
> McCain. The selection of Palin made that a moot point, and assured my vote
> went to Obama (my first vote for a democratic presidential nominee in my
> life).
>
> 3. There are some basic things that will most likely preclude Palin from
> becoming more than a showpiece that is trotted out to "energize the base".
> Although she does not promote policies and laws with a religious agenda,
> she
> does seem to have a religion based narrow world view similar to our current
> president. The United States status in the world has been damaged enough
> by
> this.
>
> 4. While she does have executive experience as a governor, it is Alaska, a
> state that is rolling in revenues without taxation. Budget time is easy -
> not many hard choices.
>
> 5. The final and, as I believe, the most important brake on her influence
> on the national stage will be the behind the scenes power brokers in the
> Republican Party. They are the source of the nasty rumors about the
> clothes, the dumb answers in the briefings, and the attempts to remold her.
> They will use her but not promote her.
>
> Robert
>
> Robert J. Nickerson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 2:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL-Palin Begins 2012 Campaign
>
>
> This article lays it out pretty well:
>
>
> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2012/69_of_gop_voters_say_palin_helped_mccain
>
>
> David Bradley wrote:
> > Brad, do you really believe that? "Despite what the pundits write,
> > McCain would have lost by 10 points without Palin." I've not seen a
> > single piece of analysis that doesn't say Pailin cost McCain votes in
> > the centrist crowd. I am not debating that she accomplished good
> > things in Alaska or that she isn't a viable conservative candidate. I
> > just think she contributed to the defeat this time.
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Rummy,
> >>
> >> Sorry to burst your bubble but that is not going to happen. Despite
> >> what the pundits write, McCain would have lost by 10 points without
> >> Palin. There are still a few of us left who believe in ourselves and
> >> not some some 'gubment' program as our path to happiness and
> >> prosperity. Will Palin make it to the Whitehouse? Maybe, maybe not.
> >> Unlike "The One" where people project their hopes on a blank slate,
> >> Sarah Palin has a real record of accomplishments. Get use to is Rummy,
> >> Sarah has always written her own ticket and she's not losing sleep
> >> about your bitching. Come to think of it, neither am I.
> >>
> >> Brad
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:42 PM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Brad,
> >>> Nobody is worried about Palin, we would just appreciate it if she would
> >>> go
> >>> home.....and stay there.
> >>>
> >>> Rummy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 11/25/2008 7:34:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >>> flybrad at yahoo.com writes:
> >>>
> >>> Ben,
> >>>
> >>> Sooner or later, people will figure out that Sarah Palin is the "real
> >>> deal".
> >>> She didn't make fools out of Big Oil CEO's by being stupid despite
> the
> >>> howls of derision against her by you and your ilk. When the patina of
> >>> "sacredness" has worn off The One, people will be hungry for someone
> of
> >>> substance.
> >>> Laugh your ass off while you can. The press and the 'leftards'
> >>> wouldn't pay so
> >>> much attention to Palin if they weren't worried about her.
> >>>
> >>> Brad
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Tue, 11/25/08, Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
> >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POLITICAL-Palin Begins 2012 Campaign
> >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>>> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 6:04 PM
> >>>> November 25, 2008, 3:11 pm NYTimes Online
> >>>>
> >>>> "Southern Exposure
> >>>> By Tobin Harshaw
> >>>> Well, for those of you who thought Sarah Palin would
> >>>> quietly go North to the
> >>>> Future, it appears that instead she's going Deep South:
> >>>> "Republican vice
> >>>> presidential nominee Sarah Palin will make multiple
> >>>> campaign appearances on
> >>>> behalf of Sen. Saxby Chambliss next week in Georgia,
> >>>> serving as the
> >>>> political closer for the GOP senator who is battling to win
> >>>> a second term,"
> >>>> reports CNN.
> >>>>
> >>>> "This is Palin's first campaign appearance on behalf of
> >>>> another Republican
> >>>> candidate since losing her bid to become the nation's
> >>>> first woman to serve
> >>>> as vice president. Palin will attend a fundraiser on Sunday
> >>>> night, then
> >>>> appear at multiple campaign stops on Monday in an effort to
> >>>> rally the GOP
> >>>> base to turn out to vote for Chambliss. The incumbent
> >>>> Republican is facing a
> >>>> strong challenge from Democrat Jim Martin. A runoff is
> >>>> scheduled for next
> >>>> Tuesday, after neither candidate received the 50 percent
> >>>> plus one vote
> >>>> needed to win on Election Day."
> >>>>
> >>>> Doug Mataconis at Donklephant considers the strategy:
> >>>> "The biggest challenge
> >>>> that both Chambliss and Martin face in the run-off election
> >>>> is getting their
> >>>> voters to turn out to the polls, since it's unlikely that
> >>>> voter turnout will
> >>>> be anywhere near the level it reached on November 4th. To
> >>>> the extent that
> >>>> she's able to motivate the base to get out and vote,
> >>>> Palin could prove
> >>>> useful to Chambliss."
> >>>>
> >>>> Dr. Steven Taylor at Poliblog thinks this may be more about
> >>>> Palin than
> >>>> Chambliss. "First, the move is further evidence of
> >>>> Palin's likely long-term
> >>>> ambitions," he writes. "Second, the move means that
> >>>> Chambliss thinks that
> >>>> Palin plays well with the GOP base in a red state like
> >>>> Georgia … Certainly
> >>>> if Chambliss wins, the trip will be perceived as evidence
> >>>> that Palin is a
> >>>> serious actor within the GOP going forward, at least within
> >>>> GOP circles."
> >>>>
> >>>> Palin or no Palin, Ed Morrissey at Hot Air is cautiously
> >>>> optimistic about
> >>>> the G.O.P. chances:
> >>>>
> >>>> Voter enthusiasm for Martin has declined since the general
> >>>> election. Martin
> >>>> got his momentum from the massive numbers of Obama voters,
> >>>> most of whom
> >>>> appear less interested in the remaining down-ticket race.
> >>>> Chambliss may not
> >>>> have that problem, since John McCain didn't generate an
> >>>> enthusiastic
> >>>> response from the Republican base, meaning that
> >>>> Chambliss' voters will be
> >>>> motivated more by Chambliss himself. Republicans have the
> >>>> secondary
> >>>> motivation to deny Obama a filibuster-proof Senate by
> >>>> ensuring Chambliss'
> >>>> re-election.
> >>>> Either way, it looks like it will go down to the wire.
> >>>> Republicans around
> >>>> the country who want to keep at least one potential check
> >>>> on the excesses of
> >>>> single-party government had better start actively
> >>>> supporting the Chambliss
> >>>> effort."
> >>>>
> >>>> We can't make this stuff up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Happy Thanksgiving;
> >>>>
> >>>> Ben C.
> >>>> --
> >>>> View this message in context:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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